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post #10336 of 20276
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Originally Posted by member2000r View Post
 

Just want to confirm, does anyone got experience in Vass U last & other brand names?

It seems that a lot of comparison is between F last & U last here

 

My size: Carmina Rain UK9EE (a bit long, 4cm gap between longest toe & shoe tip) / UK8.5EEE

             G&G MH71 UK9F

             EG 888/82 UK9E

 

Will my safest choice in U last a 43.5 / 43 or 42.5 wide?

 

Thanks a lot.

 

I own a Carmina Rain in 8.5 (a bit tight, but broken in nicely) and a Vass U Last 43.

 

The Vass U Last 43 is a little bit big. If I push my feet all the way forward in the shoe I can easily slip a finger behind my heel.

 

I wouldn't go as far as to say 'definitely size down', but in my experience if you're in between 9 and 8.5 in the Carmina Rain last you may be able to size down.

post #10337 of 20276
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Originally Posted by member2000r View Post

Just want to confirm, does anyone got experience in Vass U last & other brand names?
It seems that a lot of comparison is between F last & U last here

My size: Carmina Rain UK9EE (a bit long, 4cm gap between longest toe & shoe tip) / UK8.5EEE
             G&G MH71 UK9F
             EG 888/82 UK9E

Will my safest choice in U last a 43.5 / 43 or 42.5 wide?

Thanks a lot.
Me:
Carmina, Simpson: UK8
Carmina, Rain & Forest: UK7,5
C&J, 337 & 348: UK7,5
G&G, MH71, GG06 &TG73: UK8
EG, 888 & 82: UK8
Vass, F & U: EU41,5
post #10338 of 20276

I need some help over here. I want a Dover-like shoe, but don't want to pay the EG premium. My choice is either Carmina Taylor model or a Vass model of some kind in museum brown. While I have a good understanding of how the Carmina Taylor model looks like, I've seen very few, if any, split toe derby models on Vass U- and/or K-lasts. In order to decide what to get I'm turning to you. I'm thinking a split toe derby (U- or K-last) or a London model #73 on Vass website (http://www.vass-cipo.hu/Eng/Modellek_08_Olasz/Modell_08_073_Kicsi.html). If someone has pictures in action of either of those models, I'd be highly appreciative. Thanks!

post #10339 of 20276

I have both pairs - I personally prefer the way EG hand-stitched the upper section and inner stitched the split toe, that makes the Dover a timeless classic, not even my John Lobb Chambord is on par.  My Dover was made on the 82 Last using Willow Calf (Rare & EG have discontinued) However, the EG did come at a 35% premium - so it's a trade-off you need to consider.   The upper stitches takes about 2-3 hand-hours using a pig's bristle - see picture 2 closer up. 

 

 

 

 

 

post #10340 of 20276
Quote:
Originally Posted by member2000r View Post
 

Just want to confirm, does anyone got experience in Vass U last & other brand names?

It seems that a lot of comparison is between F last & U last here

 

My size: Carmina Rain UK9EE (a bit long, 4cm gap between longest toe & shoe tip) / UK8.5EEE

             G&G MH71 UK9F

             EG 888/82 UK9E

 

Will my safest choice in U last a 43.5 / 43 or 42.5 wide?

 

Thanks a lot.

 

I have the above models in EG, G&G and Carmina - and you're safe to go with EU 43 in the Vass U last. 

 

I think Roger can also vouch for this.  

post #10341 of 20276

^^^ Yep.

post #10342 of 20276
Ilovelobbs, can you please post up the vass dover too? thank you
post #10343 of 20276

I will own a Dover one day.

post #10344 of 20276
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

I can't wait for my first Vass to come in. One of the reasons being, to see how their box calf compares to some crust...

 



I'll be interested in your thoughts - I find it a tough comparison - my Vass and EG leather are both very nice, but different. I'd be hard pressed to delcare one to be definitevely superior.

@ilovelobbs - what aspects elevate the Vass product in your assessment?

 

Hello Roger, 

 

1) The overall thickness of the Vass Calf (I have seen the sheet of calf and crust from Saint Crispin and Edward Green, and Vass Calf is thicker & durable)

2) The finished product of the Vass calf leather

3) I have never been a fan of crust - high maintenance and lots of TLC required  

4) I still recognize my Vass after walking in the rain compared to me EG's and Saint Crispins

post #10345 of 20276

^^^ Thanks my man.

 

I'm with you on 4, and have no similar basis for comparison for 1.

 

3 is subjective as to preference - I happen to like both - I'm all about variety of styles, colours and materials in my rotation. I like the fact that I can more easily alter the shading and tone of my EG crust as well.  I agree that crust requires more maintenance, but not "lots".  I've worn my Galways a lot this winter and haven't had to fuss with them constantly.

 

If you're saying that the Vass calf is better finished, then I'm not sure I agree with 2.  I think the EG crust is very well finished, and likely involves a lot more hand work in the burnishing etc. as compared with Vass.  The finishes are different, but absent personal preference I don't see an objective basis for saying one is better finished than the other.

post #10346 of 20276
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

Ilovelobbs, can you please post up the vass dover too? thank you

Wurger, 

 

I am on holiday, hence spending my free time on SF and these porn thread to properly "chill out".

 

Will post when I am back home. 

 

LL. 

post #10347 of 20276
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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post

I will own a Dover one day.
You and me both fistbump.gif
post #10348 of 20276
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Originally Posted by DonRaphael View Post

I need some help over here. I want a Dover-like shoe, but don't want to pay the EG premium. My choice is either Carmina Taylor model or a Vass model of some kind in museum brown. While I have a good understanding of how the Carmina Taylor model looks like, I've seen very few, if any, split toe derby models on Vass U- and/or K-lasts. In order to decide what to get I'm turning to you. I'm thinking a split toe derby (U- or K-last) or a London model #73 on Vass website (http://www.vass-cipo.hu/Eng/Modellek_08_Olasz/Modell_08_073_Kicsi.html). If someone has pictures in action of either of those models, I'd be highly appreciative. Thanks!

I don't think Vass can do the split toe stitching the way Edward Green does it. Nor the apron stitching for that matter. I believe member stmair (sp?) enquired about it but ultimately came away unsuccessful in that endeavour. Below is a picture of the two kinds of split toe stitching Vass does. I would be more than happy to be proven wrong. If Vass can duplicate the Dover I'd be more than happy to buy a pair.

post #10349 of 20276
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

You and me both fistbump.gif

Didn't you recently submit a MTO for the Gaziano & Girling Hove? I thought you posted that you believed the Hove to be the superior implementation of that particular style?
post #10350 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Odd I/O View Post

Didn't you recently submit a MTO for the Gaziano & Girling Hove? I thought you posted that you believed the Hove to be the superior implementation of that particular style?
I do think the Hove is more stylish, but I can't get the Dover out of my mind either. Might have to get them both...
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