Blancpain ranking

Daytona John · Aug 28, 2007

Interesting. In many respects, I consider Lange a peer who can sit at the same table as Patek, VC, and certainly AP.

Not innovative? Anyone checked out the new Calibre L922.1 Sax-O-Mat movement? Very impressive. I also consider Lange's movement decoration in a singular class.

And as much as I absolutely love JLC, I'd put them in a more middle tier with Blancpain.

gdl203 · Aug 28, 2007

Originally Posted by Daytona John

Not innovative? Anyone checked out the new Calibre L922.1 Sax-O-Mat movement? Very impressive. I also consider Lange's movement decoration in a singular class.
Nobody disagrees with you on that. I don't think anyone here said that Lange was not innovative

Ambulance Chaser · Aug 28, 2007

Blancpain is generally regarded as the #2 brand in the Swatch stable, behind Breguet. I would put it on the same level as JLC and perhaps GO as well. It had the reputation for the longest time of terrible after-market service, but things have turned around in that area.

On a more general note, I think a lot of people are too wrapped up in watch rankings. If you spend four figures, the issue is whether the watch smiles at you. The Blancpain Aqua Lung was my first mechanical watch, and I wouldn't trade it straight up for any watch that retails for under $8000.

imageWIS · Aug 28, 2007

Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser

Blancpain is generally regarded as the #2 brand in the Swatch stable, behind Breguet. I would put it on the same level as JLC and perhaps GO as well. It had the reputation for the longest time of terrible after-market service, but things have turned around in that area.

On a more general note, I think a lot of people are too wrapped up in watch rankings. If you spend four figures, the issue is whether the watch smiles at you. The Blancpain Aqua Lung was my first mechanical watch, and I wouldn't trade it straight up for any watch that retails for under $8000.

Indeed, rankings are a bit ridiculous, it's best to perhaps compare companies one on one, but not which is best, because the answer that oftentimes comes back is "best at what? And for what?".

Jon.

Daytona John · Aug 28, 2007

Originally Posted by gdl203

Nobody disagrees with you on that. I don't think anyone here said that Lange was not innovative

A quote from ImageWIS:

Personally, I'm a big fan of BP, but they aren't Patek, Lange, VC or AP; although, to be fair, Lange is a complete revival brand, but luckily they have been able to pull it off better than anyone else. They are about the same level as, JLC (as mentioned, they are less innovative, because of their interrupted history and lack of long term technical development).

gdl203 · Aug 28, 2007

Originally Posted by Daytona John

A quote from ImageWIS:

I believe he is referring to BP (Blancpain) in your quote

imageWIS · Aug 28, 2007

Originally Posted by gdl203

I believe he is referring to BP (Blancpain) in your quote

Indeed I was. BP has basically been good at combining complications and probably is best known for their flying Tourbillon with 8-day reserve, hardly innovative.

Jon.

Ambulance Chaser · Aug 28, 2007

Originally Posted by imageWIS

Indeed I was.
Although, interestingly enough, JLC developed the big-date complication used by Lange. Which isn't as good as GO's big-date complication.

imageWIS · Aug 28, 2007

Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser

Although, interestingly enough, JLC developed the big-date complication used by Lange. Which isn't as good as GO's big-date complication.

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I meant that BP is less innovative than JLC. JLC is extremely innovative, partially due to their interrupted history and partially because of the IWC connection and sharing of technical innovations and information.

Jon.

itsstillmatt · Aug 28, 2007

People would be beter off buying watches that they thought looked nice than wonderng if their timepiece had appropriate complicatins or was top 3. All the complications in the world don't make a big honkin' piece of metal on your wist look any better.

gdl203 · Aug 28, 2007

Originally Posted by iammatt

People would be beter off buying watches that they thought looked nice than wonderng if their timepiece had appropriate complicatins or was top 3. All the complications in the world don't make a big honkin' piece of metal on your wist look any better.

That's a point of view. Some WIS are more interested in movements, complications and craftmanship than styling or dials. I fall somewhere in between, but closer to your point of view. I wouldn't buy a pretty watch with a ****** movement but aesthetics tend to guide my purchase decisions. That's not to say that aesthetics are always purely a question of dial or case, sometimes the movement is the prettiest part of a watch...

acidboy · Aug 29, 2007

Originally Posted by imageWIS

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I meant that BP is less innovative than JLC. JLC is extremely innovative, partially due to their interrupted history and partially because of the IWC connection and sharing of technical innovations and information.

Jon.

JLC & IWC has a connection?

bengal-stripe · Aug 29, 2007

Originally Posted by acidicboy

JLC & IWC has a connection?
Yes, they are both part of Richemont, as are (on the watch front): Lange & SÃ¶hne, Cartier, Van Cleef & Arpels, Piaget, Vacheron & Constantin and Panerai.

http://www.richemont.com/

Daytona John · Aug 29, 2007

Originally Posted by imageWIS

Indeed I was. BP has basically been good at combining complications and probably is best known for their flying Tourbillon with 8-day reserve, hardly innovative.

Jon.

Thanks for clarifying.

imageWIS · Aug 29, 2007

Originally Posted by acidicboy

JLC & IWC has a connection?

Indeed and they had a connection before Richemont came along, at least regarding higher-end (The DaVinci perpetual for example) base movements. However no watch company benefited more from JLC than AP.

Jon.

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