conservative business dress WAYWRN: An Experiment

patrickBOOTH · Mar 29, 2011

Manton, what is your opinion about a 4x2 suit for conservative business dress? I like oldogs 6x1's, but the 4x2's look a bit leaner; is there a question of formality?

Mr. Pink · Mar 29, 2011

Originally Posted by Manton

I don't love the sperm tie, and for monks to be conservative business dress (barely) they can't have a toe cap or medallion. Well, double monks can have a cap but those are not conservative business dress.

Not sperm:

CaymanS · Mar 29, 2011

Manton certainly has good taste, but his dislike for red ties is a personal quirk (like Foo's dislike for orange ties). To say that red ties have no place in the canon of conservative business dress is a stretch...

TRINI · Mar 29, 2011

Originally Posted by CaymanS

Great pic.

patrickBOOTH · Mar 29, 2011

Originally Posted by Mr. Pink

Not sperm:

Vaginas.

Manton · Mar 29, 2011

Of those presidential ties, I would say Reagan's and Bush I's are wine or maroon, not red.

I am certainly aware that solid red is a go-to politician's tie. But I don't like it. I have one, BTW, in grenadine, but I haven't worn it in like ten years.

Mr. Pink · Mar 29, 2011

Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH

Vaginas.

Much better

Ike · Mar 29, 2011

.. and the obvious irony that red ties used to be used to identify oneself as a homosexual. I imagine it's lost on GWB, for example.

patrickBOOTH · Mar 29, 2011

Originally Posted by Ike

.. and the obvious irony that red ties used to be used to identify oneself as a homosexual. I imagine it's lost on GWB, for example.

What? How is this obvious? I have never heard such a thing.

Redwoood · Mar 29, 2011

Originally Posted by Manton

I don't love the sperm tie, and for monks to be conservative business dress (barely) they can't have a toe cap or medallion. Well, double monks can have a cap but those are not conservative business dress.

I don't want this to turn into another black-suit type of thread, but this distinction between single and double monk wrt CBDness seems rather arbitrary (and somehow Trini got away with it, too).
Care to elaborate?

Manton · Mar 29, 2011

Originally Posted by Redwoood

I don't want this to turn into another black-suit type of thread, but this distinction between single and double monk wrt CBDness seems rather arbitrary (and somehow Trini got away with it, too).
Care to elaborate?

Tradition. The only two monks that I think are truly in the "canon" of classic shoes are the plain toe single strap and the stitch cap double strap. I like my Jermyn II but it's a modern shoe. I would never wear a monk with any broguing at all.

Redwoood · Mar 29, 2011

Originally Posted by Manton

Tradition. The only two monks that I think are truly in the "canon" of classic shoes are the plain toe single strap and the stitch cap double strap. I like my Jermyn II but it's a modern shoe. I would never wear a monk with any broguing at all.

Now, I'm confused.

Is a double-monk categorically not conservative business dress?
Is a cap-toe double-monk categorically not conservative business dress?

Manton · Mar 29, 2011

Originally Posted by Redwoood

Now, I'm confused.

Is a double-monk categorically not conservative business dress?
Is a cap-toe double-monk categorically not conservative business dress?

No, two seperate points.

1) The only "correct" double monk is one with a stitch cap.

2) Double monks, even the correct ones, are probably not conservative business dress.

tazmaniac · Mar 29, 2011

I'd say double monks in general are not really conservative business dress. There is a guy in my office who regularly wears a (black) pair, however.

tazmaniac · Mar 29, 2011

BTW, Manton, as we are on the topic of shoes: What exactly did you mean by "funky" regarding my shoes a few pages back?

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