Death or This God-awful threak?

Originally Posted by Mark from Plano

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This is a difficult thing to resolve. Which serves as better proof of the personhood of pigs, Arnold from Green Acres or the pig from Charlotte's Web? We might need a poal.
I believe that Arnold was in the ***.

Originally Posted by Nosu3

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bolded is irrelevant, has nothing to do with a pig's trust. There are many ways where trust can be seen from an animal's behavior: allowing physical contact, displaying forms of affection, not getting defensive during approach, not displaying aggressiveness or fear. These are all fairly simple observations, which is why I asked if you've ever interacted with an animal. Deliberately betrayed? How else would you describe willingly shooting an animal in the head for no necessary reason? It surely wasn't an accident. The farmers all cried after, like it said in the article. They knew what they were doing was wrong. Just another example of how people can be a part of actions that they know are wrong, yet still do them. They didn't cry after for no reason, sympathy or compassion for the innocent can almost be considered as engraved in the psyche of most.
bolded is irrelevant

Originally Posted by Mark from Plano

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I remember watching Charlotte's Web as a kid and that pig seemed pretty smart.
Not really, that was a damn smart spider and rat. Pig did nothing.

Originally Posted by gomestar

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what about Babe?!?!
Probably ended up on a plate the moment he became useless

Originally Posted by Piobaire

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Napolean, Squealer, the Old General, etc?

These were Commie pigs.

As people, you should be ashamed to participate in this thread. Unless you're not really people.

Originally Posted by why

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As people, you should be ashamed to participate in this thread. Unless you're not really people.

Dolphins ok?

Originally Posted by Mark from Plano

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These were Commie pigs.

Good point.

Originally Posted by why

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As people, you should be ashamed to participate in this thread. Unless you're not really people.

Are people is are people too?

Originally Posted by gomestar

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Dolphins ok?

Dolphins feel shame and are therefore people.

BTW, personhood as a philosophical concept is most likely derived from personhood as a category in Roman law.

This thread is producing intellectual starvation. I am going to re-read Charlotte's Web.

I like the new threak title

Originally Posted by why

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As people, you should be ashamed to participate in this thread. Unless you're not really people.
Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?

SAVE THE SEALS

Thousands of young seals have their heads bashed to death in Canada EVERY YEAR.

Much progress has been made over the years, but we are closer than ever to ending the seal hunt FOR GOOD. Be active and spread the word. Knowledge is power in the animal rights movement!

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If you did that, SFers would be pining for the now-defunct seal-fur waistcoat:

Question. Is all of this an issue principally because these animals are cute? What if they were ugly and disgusting?

Who speaks for the cockroach, for example. Or the rat? Every year ugly commercial exterminators like Orkin, Terminix and Truly Nolen destroy untold millions of cockroaches, silverfish, ants, mice, rats and other household wildlife. Typically, these animals are destroyed merely for sport or for the convenience of the homeowner. No use is even made of their remains. They are not used for food or clothing, but their helpless bodies simply discarded on the whims of their murderers.

Stop this senseless murder. Roaches are one of earth's most ancient lifeforms. They were here before we were, yet we kill them as if they were meaningless. Roaches are people too.

Stop the madness.

Originally Posted by Nosu3

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SAVE THE SEALS

Thousands of young seals have their heads bashed to death in Canada EVERY YEAR.

Much progress has been made over the years, but we are closer than ever to ending the seal hunt FOR GOOD. Be active and spread the word. Knowledge is power in the animal rights movement!

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Is this another one of those random posts for no purpose? Could you please footnote such posts so I no longer have to ask? kthanxbi.

Originally Posted by Mark from Plano

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Question. Is all of this an issue principally because these animals are cute? What if they were ugly and disgusting?

Who speaks for the cockroach, for example. Or the rat? Every year ugly commercial exterminators like Orkin, Terminix and Truly Nolen destroy untold millions of cockroaches, silverfish, ants, mice, rats and other household wildlife. Typically, these animals are destroyed merely for sport or for the convenience of the homeowner. No use is even made of their remains. They are not used for food or clothing, but their helpless bodies simply discarded on the whims of their murderers.

Stop this senseless murder. Roaches are one of earth's most ancient lifeforms. They were here before we were, yet we kill them as if they were meaningless. Roaches are people too.

Stop the madness.

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