Sartorial mythbusting

Originally Posted by mmkn

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Enough of the Drape ****!

As far as I can tell, "The Firm" has different level of make based on who the client might be, in descending order . . .

1 - Fred Astaire, Tom Ford
2 - Manton
3 - Whnay
4 - That poor chap with the atrocious collar.

Might be better to go with just one name . . . A Shattuck is a Shattuck is a Shattuck is a Shattuck . . .

- M

You forgot to wank RJman.

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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Third margarita today finally woke me up. I think I might need a few more to decipher the "True Homosexual" passage. I think it means that Rach is hetero, which is a surprise to me since carries all those tote bags. Like many here, I've always assumed that tote bags were for special homosexualist supplies, like petroleum jelly and quiche pans. But, I'm going to read The True Homosexual passage again, since it is a kind of watershed moment. - B
I've decided that totes are so 2009. As such, I've placed myself on the waiting list for this lovely LV backpack for Spring/Summer 2010: I can't think of a better way to confuse men about my sexual preference... and it only will require $54,000 to do it! This is the big-timer backpack par excellence, a backpack that even Badi could love.

Originally Posted by LeonM

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Fantastastic as the clothes are on the mannnequins, these are real people, the tailors and cutters, in them.

Who are they all? I can see
Carl of A&S, Allen of Huntsman, Grant of Norton, Sexton, Hitchcock of A&S...

Leon

- B

Originally Posted by joshman

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High button point makes the person thinner, but no taller.
I think I said that when you foofed a photo a couple of days ago.

I disagree. A high buttoning point necessarily foreshortens the 'V' between one's lapels, which increases the actual expanse of unbroken cloth across his torso, increasing emphasis on its width. Anyway, I think whether a suit makes one look thinner or taller is really a moot distinction as accomplishing one necessarily accomplishes the other--we are talking about relative, not actual, dimensions, after all.

Originally Posted by apropos

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The theory is that the longer quarters visually extend the line of the leg, and thus give the impression of height.

What I see happen in practise is that the quarters usually end up emphasising the wearer's hips, making him look pear shaped, and thus resulting in the opposite effect.

Agreed. Also, in most real world interactions, people focus on you from the waist and chest up. The suggested length of your legs don't really have much of an effect.

I agree with Foo on the buttoning point issue.

Originally Posted by rach2jlc

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I've decided that totes are so 2009.

I can't think of a better way to confuse men about my sexual preference... and it only will require $54,000 to do it! This is the big-timer backpack par excellence, a backpack that even Badi could love.

Hmmm...nice backpack, but Professor: will it hold as many flavored condoms as a tote?



What about True Homosexualist Practicality?

I suppose if all of you wore this backpack...but where's the one, uhm, upmanship?

- B

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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Hmmm...nice backpack, but Professor: will it hold as many flavored condoms as a tote?

What about True Homosexualist Practicality? I suppose if all of you wore this backpack...but where's the one, uhm, upmanship? - B
Well, as we noted, I think according to the definitions in this thread, I'm straight, so about THP (True Homosexualist Practicality) I can only guess, and of that I'd say that of course LV will only be producing FOUR of these, which means that P Diddy, Beyonce, and Pharrel will probably get the others. Is that upmanship? Anyway, as for flavored prophylacticons, if you notice all those phone-cord looking thingys on the bag and the tassles, small holes will be punched into the upper corners of the packaging and they'll be strung on them like beads or those old Chinese coins. Thus, in addition to whatever fits IN the bag, they can be stored in open display for others who might be wondering how many and in what flavors you have.

Now that I have your attention:

We don't hate drape nor A&S and I will never say so!

So far we have seen more stuff from A&S that was a bit "awful" than that we were shown top notch garments.
My theory remains that not everyone has the body to wear (A&S and Englishcut) drape and that thinner fabrics will look even more messy given the techniques their tailors use.
The "giving" shoulder seam will give when the sleeve is set in and is likely to cause some tension and/or distortion across that section of the back.

Just to quote a few lines from the A&S website video:

"We cut cut a small armhole with a big sleeve and we have to full it in and then we sew it by hand, which becomes very, very comfortable!"

High armhole: Yes! Small armhole... No!



...comfortable sleeve: Maybe, but not more than a regular one. The important bit is not to have a huge sleeve in a wide armhole (see pic above), but to have a side panel and back with an armhole that resembles the body in it's shape (see back of Vox's coats)! That is pretty much tailoring basics...

"When they're finished and we see the customer dressed in the suit and he walks out the door looking really good, we are pleased, we know we have done a good job."




Maybe they were not looking?

Originally Posted by mafoofan

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Agreed. Also, in most real world interactions, people focus on you from the waist and chest up. The suggested length of your legs don't really have much of an effect.

Waist up? How about the True Homosexualizer?

And as for legs: isn't that all you see unless you are walking down a flight of stairs? Come to think of it, a lot Nay's shots are coming down stairs.

- B

^^ This back pic is like the Ace of spades, the ultimate trump card. When in doubt, throw it down, win the hand!

Wait, is that rumpled collar from A&S?

Originally Posted by rach2jlc

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Well, as we noted, I think according to the definitions in this thread, I'm straight, so about THP (True Homosexualist Practicality) I can only guess, and of that I'd say that of course LV will only be producing FOUR of these, which means that P Diddy, Beyonce, and Pharrel will probably get the others. Is that upmanship? Anyway, as for flavored prophylacticons, if you notice all those phone-cord looking thingys on the bag and the tassles, small holes will be punched into the upper corners of the packaging and they'll be strung on them like beads or those old Chinese coins. Thus, in addition to whatever fits IN the bag, they can be stored in open display for others who might be wondering how many and in what flavors you have.
The gey are such a whacky, fun-loving people. It's pretty obvious that Three's Company had a profound and lasting effect on their culture. - B

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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The gey are such a whacky, fun-loving people. - B
That we are. You should see what we do with curtains! edit: I must admit I have almost no idea what's going on in this thread, nor did I read it. BUT, that usually happens with anything involving FNB.

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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The gey are such a whacky, fun-loving people.

- B

Speaking of this, in the 1890s, "gay" just meant "happy." It was a perfectly good word that the homos stole and I want it back.

Originally Posted by Mr. Moo

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Wait, is that rumpled collar from A&S?

No - people just keep quoting it in A&S threads for ***** and giggles.