Lexus LS460 by Hyundai

Asterix · Jun 7, 2009

Originally Posted by Roikins

My friend got to drive around in a new Hyundai Genesis sedan for a week for review, and I was surprised at how nice it was. The interior didn't feel cheap, their version of iDrive/MMI/etc. was great, and the motor was nice. They might be better served if they took the Nissan/Toyota/Honda route by creating a new company name for their luxury cars, because I bet lots of people end up passing on it due to the Hyundai badge.
I drove the Genesis too and almost bought it.......... it was that surprisingly good!

Asterix · Jun 7, 2009

Originally Posted by Piobaire

I think you're wrong Nupe, or at least partially wrong. I can tell you if the typical Lexus driver had to have the same service experience of the person driving a 10 year old Corolla, there would be far fewer Lexus drivers.

The top price point of Toyota SUVs (about 60k for a platinum level Sequoia) is about what it costs for the GX Lexus. It's only about 15k less than an LX. It's the service that gets people into a Lexus, IMO, not the name cache. It was creating different dealership networks that tipped Lexus and Infiniti, not the badging per se.

+1 on the bit about the dealership experience being primary even though we can't ignore the badge whores either.

bramiro · Jun 8, 2009

At times like this I wish I have a car like that.

Christofuh · Jun 8, 2009

I've dealt with plenty of half-assed Infinti service and oily Lexus salesmen.
Just saying

Artisan Fan · Jun 9, 2009

Originally Posted by Christofuh

I've dealt with plenty of half-assed Infinti service and oily Lexus salesmen.
Just saying

I've gotten superb service from two different Lexus dealers in Atlanta. I decided to buy my second Lexus in part due to this.

dkzzzz · Jun 26, 2009

The car looks total ghetto with Buick inspired chrome trim and "Jewel headlights" + prerequisite chrome rims.
All that fake wood inside makes me lol.

culverwood · Jun 26, 2009

I look at the car not the badge that's why I bought a Phaeton. If you avoid the dealer altogether by having him come to you what diffference does it make.

chuckseabreeze · Jun 26, 2009

Originally Posted by dkzzzz

The car looks total ghetto with Buick inspired chrome trim and "Jewel headlights" + prerequisite chrome rims.
All that fake wood inside makes me lol.

No way that wood is fake. Hyundai can't afford to **** up like that on this car.

Chrome rims make we want to hurl on the other hand

visionology · Jun 26, 2009

Probably is real wood. The Genesis also has a leather interior including wrapped dash that makes many luxury cars look cheap so I doubt on a car higher in their product line they would skimp.

Christofuh · Jun 26, 2009

Everything's real: leather dash; wood trim, non-plastic chrome.
We're talking $80K vehicle here. They can't afford to fick around

Nataku · Jun 26, 2009

Originally Posted by Piobaire

It's not the badge, per se, it's that people dropping this kind of cash do not want to have to use the same service center as people buying the ultra-cheap cars. The service center is not going to give you the service experience, if you went to luxury dealership. It's why the VW Touraeg was never in my list of choices, as I really don't want to get to a VW dealership for service, when I could go to a Lexus, Infiniti, Rover, etc.

This is some of the most elitist bullshit I've ever read. Congrats.

dkzzzz · Jun 27, 2009

Originally Posted by Christofuh

Everything's real: leather dash; wood trim, non-plastic chrome. We're talking $80K vehicle here. They can't afford to fick around

It is probably real. It just looks fake. My Lexus LS had matte wood panels without that cheap polyurethane HIGH GLOSS finish that makes it look fake and cheap. If this Hyundai is priced at 80K they are day-dreaming. This car will NOT sell outside of Korea. If they bring it state side in this economy they should pray to god they sell it for around 49K What consumer would choose Hyundai over Merc, Lex, BMW, Infinity, Acura??? or even Jaguar for that matter?

Roikins · Jun 27, 2009

Originally Posted by dkzzzz

It is probably real. It just looks fake. My Lexus LS had matte wood panels without that cheap polyurethane HIGH GLOSS finish that makes it look fake and cheap.
If this Hyundai is priced at 80K they are day-dreaming. This car will NOT sell outside of Korea. If they bring it state side in this economy they should pray to god they sell it for around 49K

What consumer would choose Hyundai over Merc, Lex, BMW, Infinity, Acura??? or even Jaguar for that matter?

Actually, LOADED a new Genesis sedan with the bigger 4.7L engine is a about $41k MSRP. Base is 37k. They know they have to out price established luxury brands by a huge margin, but at the same time, it's a Catch-22, because will your typical luxury buyer want to buy what appears to be a great car for such a low price?

Piobaire · Jun 27, 2009

Originally Posted by Nataku

This is some of the most elitist bullshit I've ever read. Congrats.

Thanks! Except...it's not bullshit. Come back and talk to me when you drop 80k on a car and then enjoy the service you get at a place that specializes in cars 20k and under. Oh wait...you don't have 80k to drop on a car.

Roy · Jun 27, 2009

Originally Posted by Piobaire

Thanks! Except...it's not bullshit. Come back and talk to me when you drop 80k on a car and then enjoy the service you get at a place that specializes in cars 20k and under. Oh wait...you don't have 80k to drop on a car.

What kind of car can you get for 80k in the USA? In the Netherlands it buys you a pretty decent, but definitley not fully loaded Merc E350 or BMW 530 (the 530i High Executive is 79k euro ( +/- 110k US$).

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