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Rolls Royce Automobiles.

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Originally Posted by J'aimelescravates
If I were to purchase one, it would be either a 1963 Silver Cloud III SCT 100 or a new Hyperion Coupe.

Originally Posted by zjpj83
Hyperion was a one-off (and not a coupe).

Originally Posted by von Rothbart
It looks like a coupe to me.

Originally Posted by J'aimelescravates
It was really a Pininfarina-Rolls Royce project and it most certainly is a coupe.
I mean, it's based on the phantom drop-head coupe.

If it's not a coupe, then what would you classify it as?


Originally Posted by freshcutgrass
People tend to have wonky interpretations of the word coupe these days. A lot of people tend to associate it with a "hardtop" 2-door, 2-seat car, and tend to treat the convertible version as a separate entity calling it a "convertible" or "roadster". We're all probably better off using proper British/French names for things (as they tend to still have such things).

Originally Posted by Journeyman
A cabriolet?

I'm not going to quote you the dictionary here, but all definitions of "coupe" that I've ever seen are of a hard-top vehicle. Significantly, I've seen "cabriolet" defined as "a convertible coupe" which would seem to indicate that a coupe is, by definition, not convertible.


Originally Posted by J'aimelescravates
Let's call it a coupe-convertible then
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Just to add some confusion to this whole affair, please consider that the terms were developed long before cars were on the roads. The names came from the days of horse-drawn coaches. However, in the original automotive coachbuilder's parlance:

A landau is an open chauffer-driven car easily identified by the folding top's external hinged arms (sometimes referred to as "landau bars.") The chauffeur's area is separated from the passenger area by a bulkhead. Typically, a landau is made for four passengers seated upon two bench style seats. Originally, the seats faced each other. Later, most landaus were built with both seat rows facing forward. The landau's folding top can extend forward to cover the chauffeur's area in poor weather conditions.

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s must be chauffeur-driven just as a landau. All coupÃ
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s have an open driver's compartment separate from the passenger area just as a landau. If it rains, the chauffeur is going to get wet. All coupÃ
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s are strictly for two passengers on a single bench style seat. A folding top (drop-head) with external landau-type hinged arms or a fixed roof shelters the passengers. Traditionally, a coupÃ
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really has distinct passenger area doors.

A cabriolet is a two or four passenger open car with a folding top characterized by the absence of external landau arms. The body may have either two or four doors. Driver and passenger areas blur in distinction since a chauffeur is not always utilized and no bulkhead separates the driver's area from the passengers.

A roadster is an open car of two or four seats and no top at all or having top/frame components usually stored in the luggage area and only assembled/installed as necessary. More often than not roadsters have no permanent side windows. Plastic and/or fabric side curtains can be installed on the door's upper edge when the top is fitted.

A spider/spyder is simply an open car with multi-tubular framework to support the body. No particular style of top is identified as belonging to spider/spyder.

A convertible (one supposes) is the lazy man's way of covering all bases in describing cars that lack a permanently fixed roof.

Of course, all these terms went out the window and into the dust heap when cars went into mass production. The chauffeur and dividing bulkhead quickly became anachronisms and open cars were whatever you wanted to call them. A quick Google image search will make your head spin with so many contradictory photo captions. Traditions change with the times.

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LK exhibits a particular penchant for old cars whose upkeep requires an open credit line
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I like the new Phantom CoupÃ
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-- sure, it is flashy and totally 'wrong' on so may levels
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...but it's beautifully made and is very special.

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The twinkling lights on the roof are fun
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^^^^ OMG that car is hideous and wrong and gauche and I want one really REALLY badly now.

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Originally Posted by zjpj83
The new ones are so ******* horrible, I hate them.

even with the sparkly roof??? That clinches the deal for me!
 

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Sure, they are not beautiful
...one of my neighbours has a silver one (4-door model), it is an impressive machine.
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The Bentley Brooklands is very nice looking I think. Very old fashioned though.
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Originally Posted by Thomas
even with the sparkly roof??? That clinches the deal for me!

Just needs a disco ball.

Don't get me wrong, if I were (a) David Beckham or (b) a sheikh, they'd be lovely. Otherwise, they are just giant, hideous land boats. They will not age well.


The Bentley Brooklands, by contrast, is gorgeous. Reminds me of its predecessor.

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I never cared for the look of new RR (sedan or coupe).
This, however, is a different proposition
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Call me a snob...but the deal-breaker for me on these new RR cars...is that they will be jumped on by every second-rate (does first-rate even exist) hip-hop artist type. For that sole reason, i wouldn't be caught even looking at one.
 

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^ I don't know if that is snobbery but it isn't a very good reason for not owning one.

One can project any number of 'contexts' onto the brand -- it is a universally recognized symbol of wealth and social rank ...but it also has a multitude of cultural contexts.

I must say however, that I can not even imagine the Queen of England being driven around in the "gangsta" new Phantom -- this car is really more intended for self-made billionaire oligarchs rather than royalty -- this is reflective of the power shift that has occurred over the past 30-40 years -- it is a true 21st century Rolls-Royce in this regard.
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Now this is a truly 'blue-blooded' Rolls-Royce of the old school -- however, the world this car was created for no longer exists.

Phantom VI (production 1968-1992)
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Actually, I can define the differences between these cars in terms of gansgta rap.

For instance, 50 Cent/Lil Wayne/Jay-Z might drive this
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However, the car below is more old school. N.W.A. would take this to their next gig, while reprising their hits "Straight out of the Chateau Marmont", and "F*ck tha Chauffeur".
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Originally Posted by hypersonic
I must say however, that I can not even imagine the Queen of England being driven around in the "gangsta" new Phantom -- this car is really more intended for self-made billionaire oligarchs rather than royalty -- this is reflective of the power shift that has occurred over the past 30-40 years -- it is a true 21st century Rolls-Royce in this regard.

Originally Posted by Thomas
Actually, I can define the differences between these cars in terms of gansgta rap.

It could be worse

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