What Will Be the Outcome of This PayPal Dispute?

[poorman]

Long story short:

I made a best offer on a laptop on eBay.

Seller accepted.

I offered to pay him off eBay, asking to lower the price a little more.

He accepted.

I paid him using PayPal "Purchase."

He sent a laptop with a different configuration than in the eBay ad.

He claims he said he was selling a "New in box, Lenovo W520" and that's what he sent.

I told him that he never stated he was sending me a different computer and I assumed we were talking about the one in the eBay ad.

The only thing I have that says anything about the computer I thought I was receiving was in the subject line of the payment window
saying "LENOVO i7 2720QM" and I received a computer with the i7 2620m processor.

Will I win this dispute? Was that assumption and subject line enough? Or will the seller win on that technicality that I wasn't more specific and I will be out $1200.

 

[texas_jack]

you will lose because you didn't win something from ebay, if you did you would have paid for it on ebay.

 

[poorman]

there really isn't any other way?

 

[texas_jack]

Who knows. Paypal does tend to side with buyers but those are buyers on ebay not random transactions outside of ebay. I have to know, how much of a discount did you get for going off of ebay?

 

[poorman]

-$50.

That seems like $5, now.

 

[JohnGalt]

If he accepted your offer, how did you pay him outside of ebay? Do you now have an unpaid for item on ebay?

 

[poorman]

Yeah, I guess so. It's ALL fucked up now, huh? Damn, man.

It looks like you can click "mark as payment sent?" I don't know if that's taken care of now though.

 

[Achillus]

You paid without using Ebay policy. This is a critical point because of the purchase protection. Even if you are in your right, it's hard to do anything against some user in a different country because of the international law borders and the court costs.

 

[shibbel]

Did you draft the funds from a credit card? If so, don't dispute with Paypal, do it with your CC company. Like others have said, you'll probably get screwed by PP since it wasn't Ebay related.

 

[Carlisle Blues]

If you bought something through PayPal I would check the rules regarding transaction paid through PayPal. If this was some side deal still under the auspices of eBay then you should lose.

In other words do not take some advice on an internet forum as gospel. Fight like hell and kick the seller in the nuts.

 

[poorman]



Did you draft the funds from a credit card? If so, don't dispute with Paypal, do it with your CC company. Like others have said, you'll probably get screwed by PP since it wasn't Ebay related.

How should I tell them? I bought the item, paid with PayPal and it wasn't the right item?

I should have confirmed what I was buying from the seller, but I didn't! ahh. I bought the item under the assumption it was the same item from eBay.

Does this situation work as a implied-in-fact contract? I'm just looking stuff up about laws or anything that can help me.

I asked about the item through the eBay ad. You know? I'm not pulling stuff out of ****** am I?

 

[jimmyfingers]

I think you will win. I would not mention anything about bypassing ebay and I doubt the seller will either since he could get in trouble.

Will the guy not do an exchange?

 

[poorman]

Just an update.

I won a full refund.

 

[texas_jack]

nice

 

[Mac]

Did you get to keep the computer?