You posted them in a thread about Fantasy and asked everyone for their opinion. I rendered it and you took umbrage. Then the insults started and have been pretty even on both sides. I don't think anyone gives a shit about who says what between you and I. You have won so far. But I don't give up. Ever. Especially amidst your rain of insults. If the situation were reversed would you do anything different? Holds are worth as much as saves. You drafted one holder. I drafted 3 holders and 2 closers. Bettancourt was a holder at the time, and has had a shitty year, like Perez did for you. So we dropped them. Holders are more valuable than closers but I'm not going to tell you why if you can't figure it out on your own. At any rate, the closers you drafted have worked out very well for you. As have your free agent pickups. As have mine- whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. I change my strategy constantly after the season starts if the players I drafted to do a certain function don't do it. I'm not prescient. In every season in every sport there are surprises, good and bad. For instance- I drafted Taveras and Pierre for stolen bases, and they sucked so I dropped them. We can argue all day on who's dominating whom at what but it's really pretty even. The standings will reflect this tomorrow morning. I've picked up a shitload of games on you the last 2 weeks, but the first two weeks you won the games I had to pick up. You are misinformed about who would have won this week, however. It would have been me- 9-6-2. Not 13-3, but a win nevertheless. Re the Yahoo season rankings-. 1. Your numbers on hitters are correct. I forgot about Martinez, but he's one of those guys you don't drop- like Sabathia, who's at 1113 or something. 2. However, my numbers for pitchers are pretty much as superior as yours for hitters. I could do the math, but it's counterproductive at this point. And I do have 5 players in the Top 20; you have 3. You have 2 in the Top 10, I have 0. At this point I don't think anyone else gives a shit what either of us thinks and I'll wager they're getting pretty tired of it. Surprisingly enough we are also even on who talks trash first. You started it on the FBB site and I started it in this thread. Then I left it alone till you started it back up again. I don't take this personally. To me it's all in good fun and if it's not for you there's nothing I can do about that. It's your choice. I'm spending far too much time arguing with you on stupid shit like this.