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Pants Fit (Urgent)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Essential, Jun 19, 2012.

  1. Essential

    Essential Senior member

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    Hey, so I was just received my MTM suit from LSMen's. It fits great but I wanted to something between "enough break" and "no break." I would also like to get it tapered a bit. I posted pictures so you guys can give me opinions on how much I should take it. (need this urgently since I'm going later tonight to get it tailored since I need this suit for Friday)


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  2. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    I think there is too much break right now. It is tough to say how many inches you want to take up the pants, as we can't see how they sit after bringing them up. Also, if you want them tapered a bit, you will want them even higher, as the tapering will give more break at the same length.

    How about bringing them up a half inch, pinning them, and then taking more photos? Also, take a photo with a full-on side view in addition to the 3/4 view.

    You can also try pinning them a little on the seams to simulate the tapering, but it may be tough for you to get this right if you have never seen a tailor do this.
     
  3. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    Far too much break, another ghastly example of the pit falls of online buying.

    Try a local tailor to do the alteration and then if you order a further suit on line you may have a better idea of leg length - for this tailor only. It will cost but better to throw some more money in and get it right.
     
  4. jawboneofa

    jawboneofa Senior member

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    It's hard to know exactly what you mean by "between no break and enough break" (wouldn't enough break be...enough?), but my suggestion would be to take them up an inch or so and have from the top of the calf down slimmed. I don't know that you need them to look tapered, but right now they definitely bellow out a little bit. This may simply be a function of their length of course.
     
  5. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    Follow-up question: Are you taking them to LS Men's to get tailored in-person? If so, you should be able to work with the tailor there to get the right look
     
  6. Essential

    Essential Senior member

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    I brought my pants up to near my navel and it seems to be a lot better. I tried pinning them but for a noob like me, it didn't really work out. I couldn't get as many pictures since no one could help me so I have a few new pictures below after bringing my pants up.

    Yikes, I bought this MTM from LSMen's in NYC. The reason why there is too much break is because I forgot to wear the proper shoes for the fitting. I'm planning on going back today, if necessary (see above response), to get it fixed.

    By enough, I was looking at: http://www.effortlessgent.com/the-break-how-to-choose-the-best-pants-length-how-to-tell-your-tailor/. And does it look fine without being tapered?

    Further assessment pictures after bringing my pants up: (sorry for the bad pictures and dirty mirror)
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  7. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Senior member

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    those things are huge
     
  8. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    It looks like no break now. I can see your socks. How much did you pull up your pants?
     
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    I think your trousers look ok as far as hem length is concerned in the top 'pulled up' pic, but there is a break just below the bum cheeks at the back, and the frontal pics show some wobbles down the inside seams so you could fix those in time
     
  10. Essential

    Essential Senior member

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    I blame the American cut! (the place was recommended by the Trad forum)
    Not sure but about 1 inch? I'm short so it shows a lot. It's just a bit below my navel now.
    I believe the wobbles would be fixed by the tapering? Correct me if I'm wrong. And I'm not sure what you mean by the bum cheeks at the back?

    Guess I don't need to fix it as urgently now but I'll take recommendations for the tapering I guess?
     
  11. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Senior member

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    that is an awful website.

    His too long is not just bad, its awful.

    his "medium break" is actually more than a full break and still looks bad.

    His no break looks bad because he is just lifting his trousers up. Done properly with the slant, it will look far better, in that you get the crisp crease in the front and the rear of the pants still covers most of the shoes.

    I won't even comment on his too short. Thats not too short, thats a specific look.


    Stick around if you want better advice.
     
  12. Essential

    Essential Senior member

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    I had a feeling that was the case. The articles seem to contain empty content and seems to be pretty poorly written. I use it for basics because sites should be getting that wrong- guess that's wrong. SF is still the superlative authority but sometimes it's hard to use the search function because you get so many threads (that may or not really relate to the topic at hand).

    Anyways, is there a consensus that the pants look okay for now besides needing a bit of tapering?
     
  13. Quadcammer

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    yeah, when you have them jacked up like that, they look ok. Keep in mind as the night goes on, they will probably slip down a bit.

    Look its far from horrible, just not up to the standards of this forum, which are absurdly high.

    You look fine, but do have them tapered when you have time.
     
  14. Despos

    Despos Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    All this makes me wonder if the waist is too large and allows the trouser to fall too much.
     
  15. msulinski

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    Try this: http://www.flexbelt.net/how.html

    I just ordered one from ebay, but haven't received it yet. By all accounts, it works well. Someone recommended washing in soapy water before use to get rid of the rubbery smell.
     
  16. Essential

    Essential Senior member

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    I signed up on SF to be put to higher standards haha. Just slowly learning I guess. Thanks for the insight.
    Hey Despos, I see you all the time in the tailor thread and was going to post there but I guess I won't have to. The waist is definitely not too large, if anything a little bit small. Izzy was a bit worried because I'm athletic and even though I'm "small" I have a sizable drop from my chest to waist. Coupled with the fact that he prefers the American cut, it seems a bit big. Do you think the problem could be solved with tapering and if so, by how much? I can post more pictures in the future.
     
  17. themodestman

    themodestman Well-Known Member

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    Hey now...Effortless Gent is not "awful" and the content isn't empty and poorly written. Barron offers a lot of good advice. But you shouldn't buy an entire MTM suit based on one guy's blog post about pant length, especially when you know about resources like this forum. Plus the pants on the EG post weren't even suit pants...
     
  18. Essential

    Essential Senior member

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    Well I didn't exactly mean poorly written but rather meant to say that there a better written articles on other sites like PTO. Skipping all the nitty gritty stuff, EG does a decent job in its purpose but you could do better off. The only reason I even remember to go to EG is because they email me :)

    I didn't buy the MTM suit based off of EG either.
     
  19. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Senior member

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    any tool who writes the following:

    "So think casual summer get-togethers, mid-day cocktail parties that involve fruity, refreshing concoctions, an outdoor weekend brunch, a visit to the farmers’ market with yo boo… you get the idea."

    Is not going to end up on my "helpful website" list.

    perhaps its ok for a real newb, but even then, his little bit of knowledge is more dangerous than anything.
     
  20. themodestman

    themodestman Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I wouldn't say he's discussing fashion at the same level you guys are, but he's definitely helping a lot of guys who are completely lost. Or at the very least inspiring them to care more about how they look.

    But I don't want to hijack this thread. Good luck with the pants, OP! Post some "after" pics if you can.
     

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