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[Stazy]

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[Notreknip]

Originally Posted by Stazy

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Done. (I went to the Oilers game tonight against the Hawks; the first 40 minutes was men against boys. It was sad.)

 

[james_gsx]

Originally Posted by Notreknip

Done.

(I went to the Oilers game tonight against the Hawks; the first 40 minutes was men against boys. It was sad.)

Don't you guys have Eberle? Or am I thinking of someone else? If you tank and pick up Hall, that could be a deadly line a few years.

We tanked for Duchene, and got lucky with O'Reilly - it's working

 

[NewYorkIslander]

Originally Posted by Notreknip

Done.

(I went to the Oilers game tonight against the Hawks; the first 40 minutes was men against boys. It was sad.)

You guys are gonna get good...but there are a lot of contracts that need to be sorted before that...think Souray will end up in NY? We have no effing toughness on our blueline, but he's so damn old and oft-injured.

 

[Teacher]

Oh, Detroit, Detroit....

 

[Stazy]

Originally Posted by Notreknip

Done.

(I went to the Oilers game tonight against the Hawks; the first 40 minutes was men against boys. It was sad.)

Thanks. There is no energy at Oiler games anymore...The fans aren't into it, the players aren't into it...it's kind of sad.

 

[Notreknip]

Indeed. There were far more sarcastic cheers than genuine cheers last night.

Having gone to a Leafs home game and a few Coyotes home games in the last year, I would say the the energy/compassion was comparable. But that's really not saying much at all.

 

[NewYorkIslander]

Whats up with my Rangers?

Tortorella is an ass in my mind...he is ruining these young guys like Staal, Girardi, Dubinsky, and Anisimov with his effing head games. How long before he turns his wrath against his favorites (Callahan, Avery, DelZotto) and messes with their heads too. To much young talent on this team to have a guy like that...he has potential to ruin careers. I know Renney's brand of hockey wasn't the most exciting, but the Rangers don't need a team to put assess in the seats like other markets...Renney was developing these kids and we should have never have gotten rid of him...said it all along, now look. Torts comes to bring more offense to an offesively challenged team, and now they wonder why there's no scoring...

Really the problem lies with Sather spending top defensemen money on Redden and Rozival who have been useless, we have no sizeable toughness (our big guys Boyle, Anisimov, Rozival, Staal are not physical, and our most physical guys are small - Avery, Callahan, Dubinsky and Brashear can't find cause of hand issues and old age issues). We need a cleanout here...otherwise it'll be a cycle of win 2, lose 6.

 

[Teacher]

Originally Posted by NewYorkRanger

Whats up with my Rangers?

Tortorella is an ass in my mind...he is ruining these young guys like Staal, Girardi, Dubinsky, and Anisimov with his effing head games. How long before he turns his wrath against his favorites (Callahan, Avery, DelZotto) and messes with their heads too. To much young talent on this team to have a guy like that...he has potential to ruin careers. I know Renney's brand of hockey wasn't the most exciting, but the Rangers don't need a team to put assess in the seats like other markets...Renney was developing these kids and we should have never have gotten rid of him...said it all along, now look. Torts comes to bring more offense to an offesively challenged team, and now they wonder why there's no scoring...

Really the problem lies with Sather spending top defensemen money on Redden and Rozival who have been useless, we have no sizeable toughness (our big guys Boyle, Anisimov, Rozival, Staal are not physical, and our most physical guys are small - Avery, Callahan, Dubinsky and Brashear can't find cause of hand issues and old age issues). We need a cleanout here...otherwise it'll be a cycle of win 2, lose 6.

I don't see a whole lot of Rangers games -- only when they're on Versus, or when they play the Wild -- but what I've seen as being a real problem has been in their own end. There's been some really, really inconsistent defensive play, with lots of turnovers and breakdowns, and even times when it appeared the D didn't really know what was going on or who should be where. Of course, their lack of scoring certainly doesn't help in the least.

(As a related aside, isn't it ironic that Gabby left Minnesota for a team with higher scoring?)

 

[NewYorkIslander]

Originally Posted by Teacher

(As a related aside, isn't it ironic that Gabby left Minnesota for a team with higher scoring?)

LOL, yea. I really hated all the money they committed to him (a guy oft injured) as having not seem too much of him, didn't think he was worth it (even after seeing his 5 goal game)...but now...the guy is just special. Worth every dollar. He will break out of the slump, just a natural goal scorer and odffesively talented player.

Renney had our defense tops in the league. Now, everyone is so scared to make a mistake, the don't commit to anything, for fear of doing the wrong thing and upsetting the volatile coach.

 

[Teacher]

Originally Posted by NewYorkRanger

LOL, yea. I really hated all the money they committed to him (a guy oft injured) as having not seem too much of him, didn't think he was worth it (even after seeing his 5 goal game)...but now...the guy is just special. Worth every dollar. He will break out of the slump, just a natural goal scorer and odffesively talented player.


Oh, I would love for him to have stayed in Minnesota, but he was injured so often AND so expensive that I wouldn't have kept him either. But he has some of the best hands in the game, easily.

 

[Vashin]

burkey is crazy

 

[NewYorkIslander]

I like what he's doing...Phaneuf, when happy, is GREAT. I know the fans loved Colin White, but Jason Blake, Vessa Toskala, Matt Stajan, and the other guy are so overrated...you got a good goalie and a GREAT defenseman...you'll also love Freddy Shoes. We really miss him in NY...I mean, don't get me wrong, he is frustrating cause he creates soooo much with his speed, and he can't score in a whore house with a fistful of 50's, but if you keep your expectations grounded (good pker, great team guy) he'll be a fan favorite.

When are my Rangers gonna make some changes, or is no one going to deal with Sather.

 

[Viktri]

Originally Posted by Vashin

burkey is crazy

I don't know what to say.

JS/Dion sucked recently - possibly due to external factors.

If JS and Dion play well and Toronto acquires some forwards, Burke's done the bulk of the rebuild in 2 moves.

On the other hand, it might just be that the Dion and JS suck now ...

 

[AR_Six]

Blake isn't overrated, Anaheim definitely won that deal. Isn't his cap hit about 4mil? Totally worth it, though should've gone to a playoff-bound team.