I think I hate San Francisco.

[sftiger]

Survey says most tech workers would leave SF if they could WFH

An anonymous survey of thousands of tech workers, conducted by Blind, found that two...

www.sfgate.com

Yeah but if they have to take a COL adjustment I wonder if it's still 2/3...

 

[Gus]

I knew quite a few young, up and coming tech guys in SF. Starting five or six years ago they would say, "As soon as I get my IPO (or buy out) I'm going to a place where life is more affordable, where I can buy a home, and have kids have a normal life". Honestly, although we had already decided we wanted to move, that was a major push to start looking elsewhere.

 

[Numbernine]

 

[sugarbutch]

Not unrelated stories?

Wealthy buyers reportedly in 'mad rush' to leave San Francisco

Amid the depths of a global pandemic and financial downturn, the demand for real estate...

www.sfgate.com

Survey says most tech workers would leave SF if they could WFH

An anonymous survey of thousands of tech workers, conducted by Blind, found that two...

www.sfgate.com

I have no doubt that this is happening, but I suspect that it's being blown way out of proportion

 

[sftiger]

I knew quite a few young, up and coming tech guys in SF. Starting five or six years ago they would say, "As soon as I get my IPO (or buy out) I'm going to a place where life is more affordable, where I can buy a home, and have kids have a normal life". Honestly, although we had already decided we wanted to move, that was a major push to start looking elsewhere.

If you're moving from SF to NYC, LA, Boston, Seattle, or DC (i.e. large cities that are comparable to SF politically/socially and also have very strong job markets) it's not like your COL goes down that much. Chicago would be the main counterexample, and of course if you want to move to the south then you're in much better shape COL-wise.

I am of course biased by my peer group (mid-career tech workers) but I don't get the impression that lots of people are yearning to live on ranches in Wyoming. But I also don't have tons of friends who are on the cusp of making $30M in one fell swoop (i.e. who cares about job prospects because they never have to work again) who don't also have strong family ties to one of the aforementioned large cities.

 

[imatlas]

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

Californication

is a portmanteau of Californiaand fornication, appearing in Time on May 6, 1966[1] and written about on August 21, 1972, additionally seen on bumper stickers in the U.S. states of Idaho,[2] Washington,[3]Oklahoma,[4][5] and Texas.[6]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californication_(word)#cite_note-6

 

[sugarbutch]

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californication_(word)#cite_note-6

Beta cuckstate haters

 

[Omega Male]

 

[Big A]

Swiss probably invented loopholes. Working for Swiss company is a wet dream of every underpaid European socialist.

Only the ones who have never actually met a Swiss person

 

[Omega Male]

Might be a good stop for some of you cyclists when riding North of the bridge?

Huge new Mill Valley beer garden opens with pies from PizzaHacker

The Junction in Marin County has opened with hopes of being perfectly suited for the...

www.sfchronicle.com

 

[imatlas]

That’s right down the street from my friend’s place, and he commutes into town by bike several times a week. That’s another way of saying I’m worried about what this will do to his alcohol intake.

Might be a good stop for some of you cyclists when riding North of the bridge?

Huge new Mill Valley beer garden opens with pies from PizzaHacker

The Junction in Marin County has opened with hopes of being perfectly suited for the...

www.sfchronicle.com

 

[sugarbutch]

I can almost roll down the hill to the original Pizza Hacker. They make a tasty pie. Mill Valley isn't quite far enough away to be a lunch stop

 

[imatlas]

I can almost roll down the hill to the original Pizza Hacker. They make a tasty pie. Mill Valley isn't quite far enough away to be a lunch stop

It’s got to be close to the exact midpoint between us

 

[sugarbutch]

It’s got to be close to the exact midpoint between us

I'm on the north side of the hill, so it's south of both of us, but more to the west for me.

 

[imatlas]

I'm on the north side of the hill, so it's south of both of us, but more to the west for me.

Yeah, well, Pizzahacker makes a better story than “the gas station on Cesar Chavez that used to be an Olympic”