Everybody should be able to afford bespoke!!!

[cncrd]

So they take your order in Sweden, and then send you a French maid from Shanghai?

 

[TheWraith]

Now that's what I call multicultural

 

[blahman]

Originally Posted by TheWraith

Now that's what I call multicultural

 

[Metlin]

This thread has taken a turn for the better.

 

[Will C.]

I think everybody should be able... to afford..... uh, nevermind.

 

[Macan]

Originally Posted by HarleyBob

As an owner of a Mercedes Benz dealership, I think everyone should be able to afford a Mercedes. In fact, I think everyone should buy at least an S Class.

I'm glad you're getting my point, now u may wanna try to lower your price, say like to Toyota Prius? I'll be glad.

 

[HarleyBob]

Originally Posted by Macan

I'm glad you're getting my point, now u may wanna try to lower your price, say like to Toyota Prius? I'll be glad.

But you are not getting my point. The only way everyone could enjoy a bespoke suit is if the bespokor (I just made that up,) that's you by the way, sucks, uses poor materials, and just does a half-assed job. It sounds like that might be what you do.

If the price of a Mercedes was lowered to a Toyota, now it just wouldn't be a Mercedes would it. Something would have to give; quality, styling, safety, etc.

Admit it, you want our business, but no one will buy from you because you have made it clear that your suits suck.

 

[Macan]

Originally Posted by cbbuff

That quote from your Style Guide is very concerning. It also reinforces the stereotype of crappy materials, and would keep me from even considering doing business with you.

Concerns over the fit, quality of cloth and quality of manufacture are all difficult when dealing with online tailors. How do you ensure a good fit? How do I get comfortable with goods that I cannot touch, feel and see?

I admit that ensuring the perfect fit can be tricky. First, we try to give as much detailed instructions on measurement guide. It should not be that difficult when you're instructed how to do it. Second, customers can send their pictures, so that out tailors can examine the one's body posture. Finally, we offer free alteration. I hope this process would ensure at least 80-90% perfect fit.

Maybe I should restate myself that I'm trying make bespoke as affordable as possible to everyone through online bespoke experience.

And I'm grateful that online platform is enabling to make it happen. Cheers.

 

[Macan]

Originally Posted by HarleyBob

But you are not getting my point. The only way everyone could enjoy a bespoke suit is if the bespokor (I just made that up,) that's you by the way, sucks, uses poor materials, and just does a half-assed job. It sounds like that might be what you do.

If the price of a Mercedes was lowered to a Toyota, now it just wouldn't be a Mercedes would it. Something would have to give; quality, styling, safety, etc.

Admit it, you want our business, but no one will buy from you because you have made it clear that your suits suck.

I'm not trying to give up quality, styling, etc.. I'm just trying to offer decent bespoke suit at affordable price. You go to department stores, and look at those 'overpriced so called brands and stuff' that are pushing people to buy their way too expensive clothes through their slick marketing and perceived value. IT just doesn't make sense.

Same with mercedes, it's just too expensive.

 

[SirGrotius]

I really enjoyed the pdf style guide!!

Got too lazy to read about the fabrics, but polyester, really?

 

[TheWraith]

Avoid any suit with polyester. Anyone trying to convince you it's the way to go is clearly ill-informed.

 

[Macan]

You are clearly ill-informed if you beleive that you're getting 100% wool or cashmere suits from off thr rack suits actually.

Famous off the peg suits like Ralph Lauren, I've seen 5-10% polyester in it and the suit still looks gorgeous. When blended with wool, polyester makes the fabric more durable as worsted wool is very delicate and difficult to take care of.

Not many tailors/designers are willing to admit they use wool blend openly though.

 

[Will C.]

Originally Posted by Macan

You are clearly ill-informed if you beleive that you're getting 100% wool or cashmere suits from off thr rack suits actually.
Deceiving the consumer about fabric composition would be a crime in most Western countries. If a customer actually had serious reason to doubt the fabric composition of a suit from a reputable label, one test would be to take the garment to an alterations tailor and have some standard alterations work done - shorten the trousers, take in the waist, etc. Then, take a scrap of cloth from what was cut off in the alterations process. Go outdoors and put the scrap under a flame. What will happen next is, if the fabric is blended with poly, the burning will release an abominable stench. (In that event, the next thing would be to throw the rest of the garment into an incinerator).

Famous off the peg suits like Ralph Lauren, I've seen 5-10% polyester in it and the suit still looks gorgeous. When blended with wool, polyester makes the fabric more durable as worsted wool is very delicate and difficult to take care of.

I have found the opposite to be the case. Impure wools need more frequent cleaning; and worsted wool of a proper, sturdy weight - not the hyped "super 180" type of junk - from a good cloth mill such as Holland and Sherry, Huddersfield, Scabal (to mention only some better known names) has a strength and integrity found in few other fabrics. In addition, natural cloth breathes better and hangs better.

Not many tailors/designers are willing to admit they use wool blend openly though.

If wool blends are superior to true wools, why are the 'tailors and designers' selling it not eager to be truthful and forthright with their customers? Superior quality wins out in the end. The cloth is the soul of a suit.

 

[deveandepot1]

Originally Posted by TheWraith

Avoid any suit with polyester. Anyone trying to convince you it's the way to go is clearly ill-informed.

In defense of polyester suits. They are machine washable.

 

[Sanguis Mortuum]

Originally Posted by Macan

You are clearly ill-informed if you beleive that you're getting 100% wool or cashmere suits from off thr rack suits actually. Famous off the peg suits like Ralph Lauren, I've seen 5-10% polyester in it and the suit still looks gorgeous. When blended with wool, polyester makes the fabric more durable as worsted wool is very delicate and difficult to take care of. Not many tailors/designers are willing to admit they use wool blend openly though.
You are clearly ill-informed if you think any decent OTR brand uses polyester in their suits. Yes, there are plenty of cheap brands which sell suits with polyester in them, but I am quite sure that Ralph Lauren do not; maybe in the 'Lauren' diffusion line but certainly not in RLBL or RLPL. And as Will C says, there are laws in this country about disclosing fabric content, everything is labelled and mislabelling could result in heavy fines.