Drakes for Dynamic Endeavors Striped Grenadine Ties

[newtrane]

What is "Dynamic Endeavors"?

 

[Will]

Originally Posted by newtrane

What is "Dynamic Endeavors"?

Dynamic Endeavors is the name of the company that I use for my clothing related activities.

 

[radicaldog]

Originally Posted by apropos

Homage(tm)shot:

Now that's much more interesting, as the stripes don't break up the weave. Details?

 

[AlanC]

Here are the vintage Brooks Brothers striped grenadines. Construction is old school, no tipping with a handkerchief roll at the tip. They're in the 2 7/8"-3" range.

 

[apropos]

Originally Posted by radicaldog

Now that's much more interesting, as the stripes don't break up the weave. Details?
Polo Ralph Lauren. Made in USA. Unknown vintage, but should be relatively recent given I picked it up NWT on eBay some months back.

I think there may have been one similar (identical?) on MC B&S recently.

Originally Posted by AlanC

Here are the vintage Brooks Brothers striped grenadines. Construction is old school, no tipping with a handkerchief roll at the tip. They're in the 2 7/8"-3" range.
They are beautiful. Congratulations!

 

[AlanC]

^Thanks. I was really struck at how similar your Polo tie was to the Brooks. I'd love to track down one of those Polos.

 

[Master Shake]

Awesome ties, Alan. Especially the one on the right.

 

[nerdykarim]

+1. I don't even post about clothes anymore, but I totally want a few ties like Alan's grenadines.

 

[Sam Hober]

Kent, Your solid grenadines look like a beautiful classic grenadine. Politely I would like to point out that you have misunderstood my post - I only know of one style of what is considered a classic grenadine, which is like your solid grenadine in the photo. A beautiful looking silk. I have seen a variation that is not common being very loose and possibly should be correctly considered a [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Marquisette weave[/FONT] - but I have not thought much about this variation as we do not currently use it. Simply being loose and stretchy does not make a grenadine it is the Leno style weave which involves twisting to produce the grenadine look is what makes a grenadine. In England similar weaves to a grenadine are woven which are referred to as "Mock Grenadines" by the weavers. Their term not mine.

Originally Posted by Kent Wang

Those striped grenadines I sell (along with the grenadine paisleys) are certainly a different weave than Will's. It is a grenadine, as the weave is loose and stretchy and very interesting, but as Mr. Hober noted above there are different types of grenadine. They, along with the Polo, appear to have a simple basket weave texture, while the Drake's and the new solid grenadines I have are more like a honeycomb: It's a bit hard to tell in the photo. I'll have to shoot a better closeup of this. It's interesting that all the striped grenadines posted here are very similar in style, with the same width stripes and muted, conservative colors.

 

[Kent Wang]

That's interesting. The fabric was represented to me as grenadine by the supplier, and I trust them. Would you say the Polo and BB ties posted above are also not true grenadines?

I do agree that the honeycomb-type grenadines look slightly little better than the other kind, and that's what I'll be using from now on.

In any case, perhaps the name is not that important. If you want a tie with a loose weave and stretchy with an interesting texture, produced with this style of muted conservative stripes, then all the above posted ties fit that definition.

 

[Sam Hober]

Kent, Internet photos make it difficult at times to see details in a weave - perhaps all the above are grenadines it is difficult to say for sure from the posted photos - but they are all beautiful. Note: I tried to magnify the photos and did see what looked like some twisting of the silks - which leans towards a leno/grenadine weave - but the photos were not sharp enough to really see the detail. I said that your solid silk and Will's striped silk are clearly classic grenadine weaves from the photos. Both are very elegant indeed. All the other photos could be grenadine or could not be I cannot say from the photos. Again what makes a grenadine is a Leno style weave which involves twisting. Also I did not say that "... the honeycomb-type weave look slightly better.." I like them all. Actually, I like Apropos' tie enough that I may use that weave style in the future. In the past grenadine style weaves have been used for curtains and clothing. I am not clear how old the weave is but it is said to go back a very long way. A picture is worth a thousand words here is a close-up of a slate blue grenadine: