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The picture of the truck in that ad actually looks like it’s pulling the Carolina squat…probably parked on an upward incline
 

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can somebody who knows how run a poll whether evs are good bad indifferent or other compared to ice ? I feel like folks have shared experiences here but the sense i get is it's not a great onecar as of yet to go full ev but

personally I'm sort of bullish on the Toyota hybrid platform
 

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can somebody who knows how run a poll whether evs are good bad indifferent or other compared to ice ? I feel like folks have shared experiences here but the sense i get is it's not a great onecar as of yet to go full ev but

personally I'm sort of bullish on the Toyota hybrid platform
I don't think there is such a thing as a onecar for everyone. If you aren't intrigued/excited by the prospect of having an EV, it's probably not for you. I find Toyota's argument that plug-in hybrids are a more efficient use of battery raw materials to be pretty persuasive. If we had to settle on having only one car, it might be a Prius Prime. Once all of the brands are using the Supercharger network, an EV might be my choice.
 

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So if you haven’t heard already, Tesla’s given all its 3 and Y owners a free month of “FSD” so they can try it out.

So a whole bunch of untrained users are out there beta testing this software on public roadways. Hope it goes well!

The best part is that you’re in the beta test too whether you like it or not, or are a Tesla owner or not 👍🏽
 

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Why do you need training on FSD? I can get into a car I've never driven and use their lane keep assist and radar cruise just fine. FSD is no better than those two features on every other car.
 

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I dunno, I figure you should at least be told at the very least the limitations of the feature, and the safety protocols, given that I’m not aware of any truly autonomous, fully tested, self driving tech that exists.

If the Tesla actually does a good job of this before you use the feature, then good on them
 

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I dunno, I figure you should at least be told at the very least the limitations of the feature, and the safety protocols, given that I’m not aware of any truly autonomous, fully tested, self driving tech that exists.

If the Tesla actually does a good job of this before you use the feature, then good on them
Lol, pretty sure they don't if Musk is constantly saying his FSD is fully SD and not just driving assistance.
 

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You're all smoking the minty fresh crack. We have 100% guaranteed had completely autonomous cars since 2107/2018 if you follow the sacred timeline.

 

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You're all smoking the minty fresh crack. We have 100% guaranteed had completely autonomous cars since 2107/2018 if you follow the sacred timeline.


Never gets old. I like the being able to summon your car from NYC to LA claim. So the car is going to drive across the country by itself and plug itself in?
 

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You know they’re not force turning it on for anybody, right? You still have to enable it even after the update, just like these people would have if they subscribed to it or bought it outright. You also have to accept the disclaimer before you enable it that tells that you that you basically can't just get blackout drunk and have it drive you around.

This new version is actually pretty amazing and is absolutely not just a "lane keep assist". Even prior versions of FSD were nothing of the sort and what you are prolly thinking about is Autopilot, but that works pretty damn well too.

I realize you guys are all hating on Musk and I guess by proxy on Tesla, but so many of you are making such ignorant statements and proclamations that it’s pretty clear you don’t have any first hand experience with what you’re talking about, or you got the unfortunate short end of the stick due to a lack of education about the cars from the likes of Hertz. In reality I suspect most of you are just parroting some automotive “media” nonsense. It’s hard to change any minds in an echo chamber, but just wanted to point out that you guys are being intellectually dishonest with yourselves.

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And yea, the bullshit about it being “solved” this year for the past four years or whatever is just stupid on Musk’s part, but again, it’s not like this was done before. The rockets didn’t land themselves back on Earth until suddenly they did either… Do you know of anybody even remotely close to Tesla’s progress in this realm?
 

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You know they’re not force turning it on for anybody, right? You still have to enable it even after the update, just like these people would have if they subscribed to it or bought it outright. You also have to accept the disclaimer before you enable it that tells that you that you basically can't just get blackout drunk and have it drive you around.

This new version is actually pretty amazing and is absolutely not just a "lane keep assist". Even prior versions of FSD were nothing of the sort and what you are prolly thinking about is Autopilot, but that works pretty damn well too.

I realize you guys are all hating on Musk and I guess by proxy on Tesla, but so many of you are making such ignorant statements and proclamations that it’s pretty clear you don’t have any first hand experience with what you’re talking about, or you got the unfortunate short end of the stick due to a lack of education about the cars from the likes of Hertz. In reality I suspect most of you are just parroting some automotive “media” nonsense. It’s hard to change any minds in an echo chamber, but just wanted to point out that you guys are being intellectually dishonest with yourselves.

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And yea, the bullshit about it being “solved” this year for the past four years or whatever is just stupid on Musk’s part, but again, it’s not like this was done before. The rockets didn’t land themselves back on Earth until suddenly they did either… Do you know of anybody even remotely close to Tesla’s progress in this realm?

Sorry man, the Tesla self-driving tech sucks. It relies 100% on cameras which is absolutely stupid and will mean it will never be capable of actually fully self-driving because it won't be able to handle all weather conditions at a minimum. Consumer Reports and others have rated a variety of the systems. CR's review has Ford as #1 and Tesla as #8.

 

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