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^^^ Ya, European car prices are steep as hell.

When I lived over there I had a leased car thru my company, I was astonished to learn there is a 43% tax on the base price of the car and then on top of that total (base + 43% tax) you pay VAT of 19%. My current car in Europe costs $158,000 which is insane.


Cheap, try 180% car tax and 25% VAT.
 

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Insane!
 

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I like cars too much. I couldnt stand for that.


+1000. This would be hard for me to live with.



You sort of get used to it, the only things that changes is that porsches etc. become more exclusive, as it's only for people with deep pockets, a Cayenne is 350k$<.

The worst thing is that I live about 30k away from Sir F and for what he pays for a 997 Turbo, I can get a Golf GTi.
 

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It seems to be a huge difference that you really have no such thing as an affordable luxury/performance car. Are the restrictions on modifications also extreme/expensive?

~ H
 

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You sort of get used to it, the only things that changes is that porsches etc. become more exclusive, as it's only for people with deep pockets, a Cayenne is 350k$<.
The worst thing is that I live about 30k away from Sir F and for what he pays for a 997 Turbo, I can get a Golf GTi.


Holy ****, my car in Finland is over $300k.
 

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Holy ****, my car in Finland is over $300k.


Denmark, but close ;)

It seems to be a huge difference that you really have no such thing as an affordable luxury/performance car. Are the restrictions on modifications also extreme/expensive?
 


Golfs, A4's, 3 series etc. are actually fairly common, a 500 Abarth SS is a 100k (the same as a Golf GTi)

If you follow the law (which most car people don't).

A couple of examples
you can only tune your engine by 20%, anything over has to be MOT'ed and in extreme cases taxed.
If you turbo or supercharge your car you have to MOT'ed and and tax it.
You can only change the wheel diameter with 5% and the whole wheel has to be inside the wheel well, (in germany it's only the thread of the tire)
Everything has to be TUV and DOT approved.
The bottom of your head light has to be 50cm above the ground.
The most marsupialed rule, is that if you f.ex. put RS4 brakes, bodykit, seats etc. in your A4 110tdi, you can be forced to pay tax for it, as it has changed identity.
 

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In London last week, I saw a McLaren MP4-12C parked out on the street with the other regular cars. It was also slightly dirty, which made it all the more endearing. If I had the scratch, it'd be between that, the 458, or a CGT.
 

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I love that about London and Europe in general - cars look cool as hell with a little grime on them. I haven't been to Switzerland but I've gathered that nobody washes their cars there, yet they have all the baller models on the streets. It must be crazy. In Japan it seems like all the cars are sparkling clean all the time, I am not sure if people wash their cars all the time here, or if the roads are genuinely that clean that cars just never get that dirty, it often seems that way. You never see cars with a bit of grime spray on them like you do in London. I like the zen aspect of sitting out in the sun with a six pack and hand polishing a car as some way to blow off some stress, but I do think a car looks cooler with honest dirt and road grime on it....
 

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Washing your car from October to April is pretty much pointless, as it will look like **** 5 minutes later, so I think a lot of people just don't bother, the only problem is you get dirty as **** when you touch it.
 

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I love that about London and Europe in general - cars look cool as hell with a little grime on them. I haven't been to Switzerland but I've gathered that nobody washes their cars there, yet they have all the baller models on the streets. It must be crazy. In Japan it seems like all the cars are sparkling clean all the time, I am not sure if people wash their cars all the time here, or if the roads are genuinely that clean that cars just never get that dirty, it often seems that way. You never see cars with a bit of grime spray on them like you do in London. I like the zen aspect of sitting out in the sun with a six pack and hand polishing a car as some way to blow off some stress, but I do think a car looks cooler with honest dirt and road grime on it....


+1. I enjoy the actual labor part of keeping my car clean.
 

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I love that about London and Europe in general - cars look cool as hell with a little grime on them. I haven't been to Switzerland but I've gathered that nobody washes their cars there, yet they have all the baller models on the streets. It must be crazy. In Japan it seems like all the cars are sparkling clean all the time, I am not sure if people wash their cars all the time here, or if the roads are genuinely that clean that cars just never get that dirty, it often seems that way. You never see cars with a bit of grime spray on them like you do in London. I like the zen aspect of sitting out in the sun with a six pack and hand polishing a car as some way to blow off some stress, but I do think a car looks cooler with honest dirt and road grime on it....


I like a clean car, but there's also something about a car that isn't detailed too perfectly that I appreciate. Idk, I prefer that lived-in, practical look. Cars that look like museum pieces on the streets really don't excite me as much as one that looks daily driven.
 

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