Can I wear these derby shoes with a suit?

[randomnumber193771]

Is it okay to wear the following derby shoes with a suit? I love them

If I can't, what could I combine them with? Dress pants and a nice dress shirt perhaps?

 

[eagleman]

They are too casual for a suit.

 

[randomnumber193771]

They are too casual for a suit.

and if I wear them with dress pants and a dress shirt (i.e. without it being an entire suit)?

 

[BrooksLauren77]

Still too casual. The chunky rubber sole and colour hurts their versatility IMO.

 

[randomnumber193771]

Still too casual. The chunky rubber sole and colour hurts their versatility IMO.

I see, I kinda like the chunkyness to be honest. What about these? a little less chunky, but still a derby.

 

[eagleman]

Those would still be considered too casual for what you are describing.

 

[randomnumber193771]

Those would still be considered too casual for what you are describing.

Okay, thank you.

 

[maxalex]

Both of these pairs look a bit like military dress shoes, or police shoes. The first pair is maybe more mall cop shoes. I get it--it's the chunky/punky Doc Marten look. But not very dressy outside of the aforementioned institutional dress. Why black? Unless you're a trial lawyer or Wall Street trader (in which case you wouldn't even be asking about these shoes), black is unnecessary and limited. If you're sold on derbies (which is fine) why not shop around for a nice chestnut brown leather soles version? You'll be able to wear them with a grey suit, a navy suit, a brown suit, jeans, cords, chinos. Meermin has excellent and reasonably priced models made in Spain and Goodyear welted.