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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei
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As a prelude, thanks to all who replied. I really appreciate the well-thought out posts. It really helps me on my watch-related path.
Hmm, I think I completely agree with your post Belli. I guess I never really thought about it from that perspective. And I guess with the parts "guarantee," that really makes purchasing vintage Rolex much less of a gamble. I guess I should think twice before forsaking that which is older simply because it is old. I guess I fall prey to the newer is better maxim. Perhaps I should start rethinking it
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And that is kind of what I considered vis-a-vis the Clapton model. $50,000 seems to be the price that darn near any Clapton memorabilia will fetch. I just think it is a little bit odd that a watch can sell for 10 times more in less than 5 years! I agree with you that rarity plays a huge part in value. But that type of quantum leap does not seem to be a function of rarity. More on this below though...
Although I completely agree, the PN Daytona is facking gorgeous. Just a stunning watch.
Always glad to hear your 2c Stitchy.
I think that Kaplan described quite nicely where I am coming from. As stated above, the price increase in vintage Rolex is quite steep. And I wonder if the increase in price is due to the vintage fad? It seems like vintage Rolex is very in vogue right now. When they are no longer as hot of a commodity, one can assume that the market for them will likely fall out. I agree with you Stitchy, that as an investment piece it probably is not a very wise investment.
But this is kind of the way that I look at it. I remember a few days ago, Dino mentioned something along the lines of "instead of buying Rolex above MSRP upon a new release, I wait until the hype has died down, and snag it for retail" (sorry for the paraphrasing Dino
). I can't help but feel the same way with the vintage market. I feel like there is a huge demand for all things vintage right now. And who is to say how long that will last? I guess I worry about the speculation--because the market and "value" of a vintage watch is not as easily delineated as a new watch.
*also, I apologize for my very rudimentary understanding of economics.
And Dino, have yet to address your post, just reading through it now!
Hmm, I think I completely agree with your post Belli. I guess I never really thought about it from that perspective. And I guess with the parts "guarantee," that really makes purchasing vintage Rolex much less of a gamble. I guess I should think twice before forsaking that which is older simply because it is old. I guess I fall prey to the newer is better maxim. Perhaps I should start rethinking it
.And that is kind of what I considered vis-a-vis the Clapton model. $50,000 seems to be the price that darn near any Clapton memorabilia will fetch. I just think it is a little bit odd that a watch can sell for 10 times more in less than 5 years! I agree with you that rarity plays a huge part in value. But that type of quantum leap does not seem to be a function of rarity. More on this below though...
Although I completely agree, the PN Daytona is facking gorgeous. Just a stunning watch.
Always glad to hear your 2c Stitchy.
I think that Kaplan described quite nicely where I am coming from. As stated above, the price increase in vintage Rolex is quite steep. And I wonder if the increase in price is due to the vintage fad? It seems like vintage Rolex is very in vogue right now. When they are no longer as hot of a commodity, one can assume that the market for them will likely fall out. I agree with you Stitchy, that as an investment piece it probably is not a very wise investment.
But this is kind of the way that I look at it. I remember a few days ago, Dino mentioned something along the lines of "instead of buying Rolex above MSRP upon a new release, I wait until the hype has died down, and snag it for retail" (sorry for the paraphrasing Dino
). I can't help but feel the same way with the vintage market. I feel like there is a huge demand for all things vintage right now. And who is to say how long that will last? I guess I worry about the speculation--because the market and "value" of a vintage watch is not as easily delineated as a new watch.*also, I apologize for my very rudimentary understanding of economics.
And Dino, have yet to address your post, just reading through it now!
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good points, n. glad you appreciated my thoughts. i appreciate you bringing up the topic.
the only difference though in employing dinos remarks about waiting for things to cool down, to vintage, is that you may run the risk of not getting your hands on the model you want, if no one is willing to sell when you want it. especially if selling means the owner will be taking a hit.
i think most of the time when these models go for huge jumps it because someone with a healthy bank account has it hot and heavy for that model and wants it now, and does not want it to get away. and if a bidding war ensues and egos get involved, well then, all bets are off.
as opposed to production models, once the initial excitement dies down, and supply and demand line back up, its not usually a big deal to get what you want for a more reasonable price if you just wait a little.
ymmv, but thats how it seems to me.
the only difference though in employing dinos remarks about waiting for things to cool down, to vintage, is that you may run the risk of not getting your hands on the model you want, if no one is willing to sell when you want it. especially if selling means the owner will be taking a hit.
i think most of the time when these models go for huge jumps it because someone with a healthy bank account has it hot and heavy for that model and wants it now, and does not want it to get away. and if a bidding war ensues and egos get involved, well then, all bets are off.
as opposed to production models, once the initial excitement dies down, and supply and demand line back up, its not usually a big deal to get what you want for a more reasonable price if you just wait a little.
ymmv, but thats how it seems to me.
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watch looks great, dopey!
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Thanks. I wish I could do a better job photographing it. It is really pretty clean. I am tempted to get a modern version as well to wear all the time, though this one is pretty durable. The column wheel chrono movement is beautiful as well - stock photo:
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that is a fantastic picture.
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gorgeous watch I miss mines dearly.beautiful movement, Dopey Terrible pic of what's on today.
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Lovely portuguese! Looks very, very nice on your wrist.
Rumor has it that it is the best finished watch evar.
Warren, why did you choose to send it to a new home?
Rumor has it that it is the best finished watch evar.
Warren, why did you choose to send it to a new home?
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i do liek that IWC port. i like it alut.
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was hoping someone would get that. i love that movie.
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