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I’ve noticed that in this “new” model that they’ve also stopped making pieces with bolder and more unique fabrics imo, which is what I was drawn to in this company in the first place. Maybe they had mixed results in sales but I look at their releases over the past couple years since and feel most of their products are pretty boring. Especially with the price hikes and no sales, it’s driven me to rarely consider them. It’s sad because I was able to get some really incredible suits/pieces at a very reasonable price with the outlets.

I like your take on this and the observations. The Jort line was always the highlight for me each season because it's the one line that featured the most daring pieces. But you are right, I haven't seen much like that lately.

I have to admit that this company has changed and also that it's been willing to change and adapt to, apparently, what many of the customers wanted. One of these things was looser pant fit that they finally delivered on (many of the people on here through the years stated that they would never consider the SS suit because of how tight the trousers were, but they were here for the blazers), and now I'm seeing the Roma fit is supposed to be the looser fit after Napoli was discontinued? I haven't bought much in the last couple years, so correct me if I'm wrong, anybody?
 

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They changed their approach to more italian style details, and they offer more of high quality fabrics and weaves besides their standard VBC offerings OTR. So the Roma for example is more of an italian fit. The Napoli was more for worsted wool suit and didn't work on more relaxed and casual approaches, because it was also more conservative. But it made sense back then, because they were pushing suits. Now they are pushing "elevated casual style", as you can see on their products that go way beyond suits.
That's at least how they want to justify their hefty price increases on almost all items they sell. Only the "basic" suits are still a good bang for the buck, and unchallgened (379€ for a basic navy suit is great). For the rest I am not really keen to pull the trigger quite that often nowadays.
 

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surely someone else has also suffered from this, but I’m planning on getting my wedding tuxedo MTM (or custom, whatever they call it these days) and have come up short trying to find a nice butterfly bow tie and cummerbund to match the grosgrain lapels. I would have thought Suitsupply would have sold a set to match, but apparently not. Has anyone gone down this same rabbit hole and can suggest a matching pair? Preferably within the EU
 

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surely someone else has also suffered from this, but I’m planning on getting my wedding tuxedo MTM (or custom, whatever they call it these days) and have come up short trying to find a nice butterfly bow tie and cummerbund to match the grosgrain lapels. I would have thought Suitsupply would have sold a set to match, but apparently not. Has anyone gone down this same rabbit hole and can suggest a matching pair? Preferably within the EU

Not EU but if you want one of the best: https://www.samhober.com/bow-ties/grosgrain-100-silk-bow-ties/
 

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I’ve noticed that in this “new” model that they’ve also stopped making pieces with bolder and more unique fabrics imo, which is what I was drawn to in this company in the first place. Maybe they had mixed results in sales but I look at their releases over the past couple years since and feel most of their products are pretty boring. Especially with the price hikes and no sales, it’s driven me to rarely consider them. It’s sad because I was able to get some really incredible suits/pieces at a very reasonable price with the outlets.

If you take a look at custom made cloth selection and struggle to go bold and unique i really want to see your wardrobe. On the contrary the cloth selection should include more timeless classic cloths in heavier weights. Their 4-ply travelers are step in the right direction.
 

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Just curious on people's experience with changing button stance on custom made jackets.

I ordered a custom jacket and lowered the button stance by "-1: Lower marginally", which I assume is 1cm?

However, when comparing it to a previous custom made jacket with the default button stance (otherwise same fit/sizing), there seems to be absolutely no difference between the two. The top button (on a two button) sits at the same point on my body and the bottom button is in exactly the same place relative to the top of the pockets.

Makes me wonder whether they actually change the button stance or if I just need to lower it by a larger amount..
 

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My brothers in attire, I have some dreadful news: the button fly option is no longer available
Screenshot 2024-02-07 at 5.59.47 pm.png
 

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Has anyone had much experience with Proper Cloth MTM suits and, if so, how do they generally compare to Suitsupply's MTM service?

It looks like SuSu has a few more inputs available in the MTM tool (albeit they seem to keep reducing the available inputs/mods), as well as a greater fabric range (but again, far less than they used to).

The last couple of MTM items I've ordered from SuSu have had some significant issues in terms of deviation from the input measurements (one I was able to have a tailor correct - at my own expense, the other I had to return). Not sure if it's because they've changed factory or something (perhaps that's why there are far less options now?)
 

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So to summarize, the past few months saw the removal of the following MTM options on the website:

- 3 button jacket
- full canvas construction with 4 layers (only 2 layers left)
- button fly
- neat side adjusters that sit directly on the waistband. Instead, they only offer long and winged side adjusters, both of which sit half-way below the waistband.

Anything else that's been removed?

How am I supposed to cope with that? This is utterly tragic.
 
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So to summarize, the past few months saw the removal of the following MTM options on the website:

- 3 button jacket
- full canvas construction with 4 layers (only 2 layers left)
- button fly
- neat side adjusters that sit directly on the waistband. Instead, they only offer long and winged side adjusters, both of which sit half-way below the waistband.

Anything else that's been removed?

How am I supposed to cope with that? This is utterly tragic.
They also removed the 5 cm turn up with the hidden button for the cuffs, similar to what’s in the Jort trousers.
 

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This cannot end without a just fight. I just submitted the following inquiry via email:

Dear friends at Suitsupply,

Recently, your custom suit configurator on your website seems to have abandoned the option to choose between a zip fly or button fly for pants.

The configurator does, however, provide the option to select specific buttons at an extra cost, for example Dark Brown Horn (B09) buttons for 10 € extra. This option is option is displayed even when one chooses to have pants with Single or Double closure buckles, and with buttonless back pockets as in "Jetted No Button".

Does this mean that the button fly is now the default configuration for pants? Or has the button fly actually been removed? If removed, I think it would make sense to render the choice of buttons in the configurator dependent on whether the current pants configuration features any buttons at all. I think customers would have a right to complain if they were charged an additional cost, such as 10 € extra for "Dark Brown Horn" (B09) buttons, if the resulting pants have a zip fly and not a single horn button anywhere.

I would really love to see the button fly as an available option or, at least, as the default set for custom pants.

Looking forward to your kind reply.

Best regards

Maybe they will reconsider their path of sin.

Never too late for hope.

Have a passionate Easter, my fellow connoisseurs!
 

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So I just received the following reply (excerpt):

This is correct, we made some modifications to the custom made tool and now some options (like the button fly) are no longer available. The button fly is now the default configuration for trousers.

What I find interesting is that the above statement does, in fact, technically fit to this post:

My brothers in attire, I have some dreadful news: the button fly option is no longer available View attachment 2127563

If you only focus on whether the button is a deselectable option, instead of focussing on whether the button fly is available at all, it becomes apparent that the button fly is still in existence in the Suitsupply realm. It appears to have superseded the zip fly.

Isn't that great?
 

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Wait, so you’re saying you can no longer get zip fly custom trousers? That seems utterly bizarre.

I appreciate that some people prefer button fly, which is fine, but I personally can’t stand them (they are just unnecessarily cumbersome and impractical to me, but each to their own).

Regardless, I’m surprised SuSu would move away from the ‘simpler’ option. Wonder what’s next to go..
 

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