Hey SF, long time lurker, first time poster etc. I've been interested in classic menswear for well over a decade despite being quite young. I don't have a huge collection of tailored or 'formal' pieces because of the titular issue; some dressier pants and shirts from places like BB, Cordings, Nigel Cabourn; some knitwear, shoes and accessories whenever places like Drakes and Paraboot do my size, things like that.
Because my OTR options are extremely limited by my measurements (the only shirts I've found so far to fit are kamakura, and the shipping's no joke) I've been lucky enough to avoid making any horrific mistakes, but it's gotten to the point where, years after trying to ""slowly and sustainably"" grow my wardrobe, I still don't have a single piece of outerwear that fits. Not a jacket, not a sports coat in sight. I don't have a suit, and I've run out of places I can think of where I can get something that fits OTR. I am used to altering hems and shortening things, both by myself and with help from a professional, but am reaching my limit.
I'm not just small and short (5'7) -- I'm also very weirdly shaped. My shoulder measurement is about 16". my waist is 29"... and my hips are 33.5", which means I usually chance a 30/32 and hope for the best, as trousers that fit my waist tend to be extremely tight around the seat and thighs. A 13.6" neck also isn't ideal for shirts (kamakura is the closest) and my chest measurement of 33" means that even with the 2.5" leeway for jacketing fit I come short of most places I've seen (or, if the chest fits, the shoulders do not etc). Because I'm both small and 'out of proportion', my hope for buying a suit OTR that fits is at this point nonexistent - for every piece that fits me as a separate from one brand, its counterpart looks cartoonish.
When I was slightly younger, I even tried wearing suits sized for children, which stopped working past J crew's '14 year old' sizing, and made me feel ridiculous most of the time to boot. Since the chest and the shoulders are of course nightmares to alter, I'm now planning on trying on some Ring Jacket pieces in person to see if there's a chance I'll fit their OTR options, but saving that (or suggestions on here), I'm considering Steed semi-bespoke. S+M would be ideal, if I could try on something OTR, but I'm in London. Suitsupply have stockists here, but their OTR don't fit me.
I'm literally just looking for a normal, conservative, mid grey suit. I'm old enough to be at the point where the funerals and the weddings are starting to stack up and slightly at my wit's end.
TL;DR I'm tiny and want a suit that fits me. I'm not rich, but if I can only have one 'sincere suit', as PTO like to say, I'm happy to pay what it costs for it to truly fit as long as good value. I'm looking for any OTR, MTM or bespoke options, accessible from London/England, that are likely to fit me well. If anyone has any advice, I'd love to hear it. If I'm being an idiot, have overlooked something obvious, or have misunderstood how outside the bell curve my measurements are, well, that would just make my life easier.
Because my OTR options are extremely limited by my measurements (the only shirts I've found so far to fit are kamakura, and the shipping's no joke) I've been lucky enough to avoid making any horrific mistakes, but it's gotten to the point where, years after trying to ""slowly and sustainably"" grow my wardrobe, I still don't have a single piece of outerwear that fits. Not a jacket, not a sports coat in sight. I don't have a suit, and I've run out of places I can think of where I can get something that fits OTR. I am used to altering hems and shortening things, both by myself and with help from a professional, but am reaching my limit.
I'm not just small and short (5'7) -- I'm also very weirdly shaped. My shoulder measurement is about 16". my waist is 29"... and my hips are 33.5", which means I usually chance a 30/32 and hope for the best, as trousers that fit my waist tend to be extremely tight around the seat and thighs. A 13.6" neck also isn't ideal for shirts (kamakura is the closest) and my chest measurement of 33" means that even with the 2.5" leeway for jacketing fit I come short of most places I've seen (or, if the chest fits, the shoulders do not etc). Because I'm both small and 'out of proportion', my hope for buying a suit OTR that fits is at this point nonexistent - for every piece that fits me as a separate from one brand, its counterpart looks cartoonish.
When I was slightly younger, I even tried wearing suits sized for children, which stopped working past J crew's '14 year old' sizing, and made me feel ridiculous most of the time to boot. Since the chest and the shoulders are of course nightmares to alter, I'm now planning on trying on some Ring Jacket pieces in person to see if there's a chance I'll fit their OTR options, but saving that (or suggestions on here), I'm considering Steed semi-bespoke. S+M would be ideal, if I could try on something OTR, but I'm in London. Suitsupply have stockists here, but their OTR don't fit me.
I'm literally just looking for a normal, conservative, mid grey suit. I'm old enough to be at the point where the funerals and the weddings are starting to stack up and slightly at my wit's end.
TL;DR I'm tiny and want a suit that fits me. I'm not rich, but if I can only have one 'sincere suit', as PTO like to say, I'm happy to pay what it costs for it to truly fit as long as good value. I'm looking for any OTR, MTM or bespoke options, accessible from London/England, that are likely to fit me well. If anyone has any advice, I'd love to hear it. If I'm being an idiot, have overlooked something obvious, or have misunderstood how outside the bell curve my measurements are, well, that would just make my life easier.