I think a lot of people would agreed that Seiko watches (specifically 5 Sports and Prospex) are a great value. They punch quite a bit above their weight. I'm curious what everyone thinks is a logical upgrade step from there. Outside of Grand Seiko (or King Seiko), where would you look for a watch that outpaces the Propex line while still maintaining some level of value? Where does the craftsmanship and watchmaking hit that next level? TIA