New Job - Manhattan and wardrobe

[NYliGuy]



i want to know why you are reaading that awful John Malloy book

I came across his blog, and never read the book. I just found it interesting and relatable when he brought up the 'fashion failure' stories of passing over a guy for promotion because his attire. I'm sure more to it than his clothes, but still I related when I thought of comments my old bosses would make if I came in wearing fancy brogue shoes and a slightly flamboyant shirts.

 

[mensimageconsultant]

In this case, variety in dress shirt patterns probably would be the safest way to include a stylish edge while still complying with a conservative dress code. Plus, patterns help when switching over to bar mode.

 

[jrd617]

IF YOU DO NOT OWN THE FOLLOWING THINGS, YOU ARE NOT WELL DRESSED

-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold
-mid gray flannel pants
-decent, non-chino khakis
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit
-a navy worsted single breasted suit
-a white FC shirt
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD
-black stitch caps
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you)
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine
-a plain white linen hanky

For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both)
-at least one linen suit
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check
-at least one wool or cashmere tie
-at least one linen or linen blend tie

If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel

http://www.styleforum.net/t/309783/...ollowing-things-you-are-not-well-dressed/0_50

 

[mensimageconsultant]

That list is not particularly relevant to this situation. The second half is quite irrelevant.

 

[Balfour]

^ More helpful than your funky dress shirts suggestion, tho'.

 

[mensimageconsultant]

No. Nothing "funky" about it. Different kinds of stripes and, if acceptable, checks - which wasn't actually stated in #17. Based on the presumption that he wants to look stylish, but is hemmed in by the conservative dress code. If he wants more details, he can ask here.

 

[Balfour]

I supplied 'funky', as I found your suggestion somewhat asinine (& revealing about 'image consultancy' ...

).

If the OP actually wants to learn about dressing well in a conservative environment (including, yes, some suggestions more suitable for the more rarified heights of conservative business dress), he could do a lot worse than reading Manton's list (and indeed that thread: http://www.styleforum.net/t/309783/...ollowing-things-you-are-not-well-dressed/0_50).

 

[mensimageconsultant]

Biased against a service you've never used? Great. Besides, clearly he's disinclined toward conservative business dress and feels pressured to dress more conservatively.

 

[Balfour]

Biased against a service you've never used? Great. Besides, clearly he's disinclined toward conservative business dress and feels pressured to dress more conservatively.

Not tried fortune tellers or astrologists either. Could be I'm missing out, but I'm cool with that.

 

[mensimageconsultant]

Some consultants might just push their own opinions, but legitimate image consulting is based on scientific principles, research, etc. - and importantly as pertains to this thread, actually listening to what someone wants and seeking more information from him.

 

[jrd617]



That list is not particularly relevant to this situation. The second half is quite irrelevant.

Ok, well the first half is VERY relevant

 

[mp1472]

After losing tons of weight Ive been building my wardrope back up and can recommend

Neimen marcus last call
Zanella slacks (awesome quality for price)
Hickey freeman mainline suits sportcoats (need to know the difference of the model names)
Brioni zegna charvet ties
Variousbrand dress shirts
When they have the additional% off sales i cruise by and always kop a few good items on the cheap.
Luxire.com good value custom shirts
Some great deals on the forum also bought quite a few pieces ... look at belvest for sport coats amesome quality/price point

Once u find some brands you like theres some deals on flea bay!

 

[David Reeves]



Not tried fortune tellers or astrologists either.  Could be I'm missing out, but I'm cool with that.

Why are you being so ill mannered?

I got stopped in union square about a year ago and asked if I wanted a makeover by image consultants with funky spikey hair and tats, I had to laugh.

 

[Balfour]

^ A jocular response to the implication that because I hadn't tried image consultancy, my disdain for it was somehow to be questioned.

"You can't knock it until you've tried it" is really the hallmark of the Sixth Form Debating Society.

What prompted me to comment in the first place was that m.i.c. dismissed a rather helpful link to Manton's list as "irrelevant" and provided an asinine suggestion about varying dress shirts. Precisely what I would expect from image consultancy TBH.

 

[mensimageconsultant]

I got stopped in union square about a year ago and asked if I wanted a makeover by image consultants with funky spikey hair and tats, I had to laugh.

There's almost zero chance those people are trained image consultants, and shame on them if they are.

The argument is not "You can't knock it until you've tried it" - the argument is your perception of the industry is way off, which it wouldn't be if there was some past experience.

As usual, stupid arguments go on while the subject of the thread stays quiet. At least post #27 is well-meant and possibly helpful.