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I’m Doubting Alden’s Future

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You discovered Alden less than a year ago and now you "doubt their future"?

What is the future you think they have?
  1. Better value elsewhere
  2. Mainly coasting on historical brand marketing/nostalgia
  3. Making better boots likely wouldn't expand their market at all
  4. Don't they already raise prices every year?
This is their past, present and future.
I found them, learned all I could about them, started buying them. Their business relies on return customers, yes? There is a cost to building the way they do, and a younger generation will not be buying Alden when they see the price/quality. I love Alden, but I cannot recommend them to a young man trying to get started in life, because the normal experience for me is bad heel stacks. That’s structural, not cosmetic. If every shoe has a heel stack, it shouldn’t be a question.

It’s basic shoe construction and I’m curious why it’s EVERY shoe I bought, but only occasionally do I hear it from others.
 

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I found them, learned all I could about them, started buying them. Their business relies on return customers, yes? There is a cost to building the way they do, and a younger generation will not be buying Alden when they see the price/quality. I love Alden, but I cannot recommend them to a young man trying to get started in life, because the normal experience for me is bad heel stacks. That’s structural, not cosmetic. If every shoe has a heel stack, it shouldn’t be a question.

It’s basic shoe construction and I’m curious why it’s EVERY shoe I bought, but only occasionally do I hear it from others.

I would argue that the vast majority of Alden buyers aren’t examining the heel stack so it doesn’t matter.
 

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I have not had an experience yet with a "bad" pair of Aldens, though I have only owned about six pair of boots.

What I have had is a very mediocre experience with their Recrafting service. The last pair I sent in were returned without anything having been done to the uppers at all. New soles, new laces, nothing else. That said, the soles were done properly.

While I still like my Aldens, at the current prices for shell, I'll likely look at alternatives the next time I'm in the market. Which might not be soon, as I wear them less and less.
 

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I would argue that the vast majority of Alden buyers aren’t examining the heel stack so it doesn’t matter.
I’m not talking about cosmetics, mine were unwearable on hard surfaces in some cases, but most cases it was only after wearing them for a full day, they get more and more uncomfortable. The heel was putting pressure like pinching a nerve.
 

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I think a lot of Alden buyers are less particular about the issue you are referring to. Many probably don't even notice the issue you are mentioning. I am not sure if it would really bother me either.
 

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I’m not talking about cosmetics, mine were unwearable on hard surfaces in some cases, but most cases it was only after wearing them for a full day, they get more and more uncomfortable. The heel was putting pressure like pinching a nerve.

Well I guess I have a hard time being sympathetic if they caused you pain and you still bought 39 more pair. If I wore a brand of shoes and they hurt me that would be the last pair I ever bought from that brand.
 

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And he spent it all on a woman who never even slept with him!!! Gives us accountants a bad rep as major simps.

If it makes you feel better, no one can possibly make me think of you as more of a simp 👍

Anyway, Alden in a way is the Rolex of shoes. The fan base is fanatical and happily begs Alden to take their money. They have a history/story, they make classic styles at a (retail) price that is hard to beat and they have no issue strong arming suppliers and customers into bending to Alden’s will. Customers are so happy to get heir hands in a pair, that they may overlook things that they would not from other brands. Both create artificial scarcity and frankly it’s a terrific strategy that few can replicate. And the reality is both create a quality product that hits above its weight, and given the sheer production numbers, lemons will make it to the marketplace.

The Alden “seconds” program is not so much a quality control process as it is a way to have a “sale” for Alden shoes without actually having a sale. Some seconds pairs have less issues then some full price pairs. You can always go up or down in price for similar shoes. The Spanish brands make some similar models. Some of the English brands make similar longwings. Don’t know of others that make an Indy style boot but I’m sure they are out there.
 

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This photo HAS to be AI generated.

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(Look in the mirror, ye StyFo multitudes - it's what you do most, afterall)
 

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