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A.P.C Jeans... Where made?

amerikajinda

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Where are A.P.C. jeans made? I doubt they're made in France... please enlighten me. If you have a pair, what does the tag say? Thanks!
 

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Wow, it's happening here too.
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Originally Posted by Dick Danger
Wow, it's happening here too.
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Uh... what's happening?
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My raw New Standards and Rescues both say "Made in Macau."
 

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Originally Posted by wEstSidE
My raw New Standards and Rescues both say "Made in Macau."

Thank you for the answer. So that's about the same as "Made in China" (i.e., not the same as "Made in Italy" or "Made in England") but I guess we're paying for the quality of the raw materials (denim) and not craftmanship?
 

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The craftsmanship is good. It's selvage denim. I'd say the quality is better than the Nudies that I've seen, I don't know about the Japanese denim Nudies.
 

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To answer your question, Macau and Tunisia (my Anglaise are from Tunis).

And there is a better way to tell how well something is made, is to actually inspect how well its made. e.g."made in japan" used to mean junk, and now people demand it?
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Originally Posted by Tarmac
And there is a better way to tell how well something is made, is to actually inspect how well its made. e.g."made in japan" used to mean junk, and now people demand it?
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Yes, Japan made a remarkable transformation in the quality of the goods they produce, but that transformation took many decades... but "Made in Macau" translates to... "Made in Macau" today. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth... Maybe someday (fifty years hence?) we will covet goods made in Macau. But that's a long way off. At least with the Nudies you know they're coming from a workshop in Italy staffed with Italian women and men with an eye for fashion and detail, as opposed to Macau where there are quite possibly sweatshop-like conditions with under-aged Chinese workers making pennies per hour, and more than likely there is more emphasis placed on quantity than quality. I wouldn't feel safe driving a car made in Macau (the time is coming soon when we're going to be able to purchase Chinese-made cars) so for the time being, at least, I would prefer to wear Studio d'Artisan (made in Japan) rather than APC (made in Tunisia or Macau).
 

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amerikajinda, sorry to burst your bubble, but take a look at this article if you will. http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/...ness/jeans.php
Today, about two-thirds of Martelli's production is at its Italian factories and one-third elsewhere. Petrin said that he could see the day coming when the relationship would reverse, and only design and research and development would remain in Italy. While Italians hold virtually all the jobs designing and marketing Martelli's jeans, only a few Italians remain on the shop floor. But the real secret to Martelli's success? Chinese labor. Indeed, Martelli's real challenge for several years has been to find the hands to do the work. Now, most of the 175 workers in one of Martelli's hand-crafting factories are Chinese, legal immigrants whom Petrin praises for their patience and dexterity. He attracted them to work for him after chancing upon a Chinese fabric dyer. "We tried Romanians and we tried Africans," he said. "None were as good as the Chinese."
 

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Originally Posted by benchan
amerikajinda, sorry to burst your bubble, but take a look at this article if you will.
Ah, I stand corrected!
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Thanks for pointing out that article... makes sense.
 

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Just cause it's made in macau doesn't mean they're inferior to japanese or Italian made jeans. The quality on my new standards is awesome and the stitching, on point. I'd say that they're on pair with Japanese Diors in terms of craftsmanship. Of course my APC NS's are nearly 2 years old so APC denim may have dipped in quality.
 

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No link to APC whatsoever but I recently saw a TV feature on Martelli Tessili, an Italian company which takes care of the various washing and distressing processes for Diesel among others.

Funnily enough their Italian factories are almost entirely staffed by Chinese workers since locals are allegedly not interested in spending 8 hours a day sandpapering jeans and the chinese are, according to the clichÃ
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loving Martelli's boss, "the most precise, efficient and hard working guys you can find". Workforce is paid to European standards though.
 

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