A or B?

[yachtie]

Originally Posted by mafoofan

Kine-what? I'm too lazy to google. Please 'splain.
One's motion, gait and stance. In this case how a garment interacts with one's motion. At issue in discussing between hard or soft tailoring is whether one's kinesthetics are high tone (stiff) or low tone (loose). A low tone person in a very structured garment will look as at ease or nonchalant as a higher tone person in an unstructured garment and it'll wear better. Neither clothes nor their wearers are static.

 

[Bounder]

Originally Posted by mafoofan

More to chew on:

You realize, of course, that this "poll" is the equivalent of asking someone if they have stopped beating their wife.

Both are both awful and acceptable in their own ways. First, I have to second Doc. I cannot imagine what is supposed to be going on with the shoulders on A. Has he got a double hunchback or what?

In any event, the question is absurd. B is wearing UCBD, apart from not wearing a tie. I think not wearing a tie with a suit is pretty bad anyway but if you're going to assert your inner fashionista by not wearing a tie with a white shirt and the most boring suit imaginable it becomes a fail of epic proportions. His sleeves are too long as well.

A would happily trade his look for B's if it included sticking B with both his jacket and the extra 50 pounds he is carrying. A's look in terms of texture, color and detail is far superior but his jacket seems to be a true sack in that it was apparently made out of an actual sack. It might look better if the guy weren't standing with his hands in his pockets. I hope so, anyway, because if his button is still pulling like that with his hands at his sides he must have serious difficulty breathing when wearing that jacket.

 

[literasyme]

B is boring and GQ-y. A is interesting but doesn't fit well, and the jacket looks out-dated. Still A it is for me.

 

[itsstillmatt]

Originally Posted by DocHolliday

If you really mean that, you can save several thousand dollars on your next sportcoat by visiting my local thrift shop.

In all seriousness, I can't imagine the shoulders on your coats will end up looking like that.
I guess I judge fit less than overall appearance, except on me. He looks very stylish overall, and kind of reminds me of how my father dressed when he got on in years, so I like it. Good style can hide a multitude of fit flaws, which is why some people do look good dressing from thrift shops.

 

[StephenHero]

No tie is better than a drab, lifeless one.

 

[Bounder]

Originally Posted by StephenHero

No tie is better than a drab, lifeless one.

I completely disagree. I think that a great many different ties are preferable to a drab, lifeless one. You have really strange taste in ties.

 

[DocHolliday]

Originally Posted by iammatt

I guess I judge fit less than overall appearance, except on me. He looks very stylish overall, and kind of reminds me of how my father dressed when he got on in years, so I like it. Good style can hide a multitude of fit flaws, which is why some people do look good dressing from thrift shops.

It's funny how much our influences can shape us. My tastes are very much the product of my grandfather's style. So I understand what you're getting at.

In terms of fit flaws, I don't mind at all when an older man's clothes don't fit like they used to. Find it charming, even. But the clothes ought to look like they did, at one point, fit, and I don't think LB's coat meets that standard.

I'd warm to the coat more if it were, say, his father's, but I'm skeptical, based on the styling, that it was.

 

[StephenHero]

It's hard for a tie to stand out positively when every single item on the guy's body is a different color and texture. It's a sartorial yardsale.

 

[TheFoo]

Originally Posted by Bounder

I completely disagree. I think that a great many different ties are preferable to a drab, lifeless one. You have really strange taste in ties.

I'm admittedly not the biggest fan of A's tie--I'd never wear it myself--but 'drab'?

 

[Mark from Plano]

Originally Posted by edmorel

At least I can excuse that as ***** and giggles/Internet persona/sexual fetish etc. But how do you explain "people in the net don't like my clothes/me/my tailor and I need vindication" and how does the other side explain themselves "we disliked a guy that we never met so much that we spent a lot of time insulting him and his tailor"

Yeah, well, I agree. That's pretty lame.

 

[Mark from Plano]

There's a lot of poll hate here that I think misses the point. The poll seems to be along the lines of "do you prefer the mountains or the beach." People seem to instead be focusing on what they dislike about this particular mountain or that particular beach.

 

[TheFoo]

Originally Posted by DocHolliday

In terms of fit flaws, I don't mind at all when an older man's clothes don't fit like they used to. Find it charming, even. But the clothes ought to look like they did, at one point, fit, and I don't think LB's coat meets that standard.

But does A's jacket really have many flaws in fit? It looks pretty good to me--at least, as far as one can tell from the photo. What bothers me the most is the lack of lapel overlap and roll at the buttoning point; it's as if the button has been moved to the absolute outer edge of the jacket. I think you could get a similar effect by fastening the jacket closed with a safety pin. But other than that, what's wrong? He is not a thin or muscular man, and the jacket shows that in as positive a light as possible.

The chest-shoulder area of A's jacket, which I highlighted a few posts ago, is my favorite part.

 

[TheFoo]

Originally Posted by Mark from Plano

There's a lot of poll hate here that I think misses the point. The poll seems to be along the lines of "do you prefer the mountains or the beach." People seem to instead be focusing on what they dislike about this particular mountain or that particular beach.

Thank you, Mark. Thank you.

 

[Bounder]

Originally Posted by mafoofan

I'm admittedly not the biggest fan of A's tie--I'd never wear it myself--but 'drab'?

For an attorney, you are curiously insensitive to syntactic ambiguity. I hope you're not drafting contracts.

 

[TheFoo]

Originally Posted by Bounder

For an attorney, you are curiously insensitive to syntactic ambiguity. I hope you're not drafting contracts.

Jeezus. What makes B's tie 'drab'?