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jcusey · Feb 11, 2005

My favorites... Blanton's reserve and Old Weller. If you like Maker's Mark you should try Weller - they are both a slightly different character than most bourbons because they use wheat in the mash so are a little sweeter. I'm outta both but this discussion has me ready to raid the Knob Creek... also good.

My favorite is Van Winkle, which is another wheatie. I have the 10 YO, but there are a lot of different bottlings. Also excellent is the Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye.

shoefan · Feb 11, 2005

Aside from the aforementioned Virginia Gentleman, there's A. H. Hirsch from the now-closed Michter's Distillery in Shaefferstown, PA (reputedly excellent stuff, with a pricetag to match), Walker's DeLuxe Bourbon from Hiram Walker in Detroit, Yellowstone Bourbon from David Sherman in St. Louis, and Old Williamsburg Bourbon from the Royal Wine Corporation in Brooklyn, NY. Â The last is a certified Kosher bourbon.

Okay, it's really scary that you know this stuff; please tell me that you did some quick research on the web to come up with this. I myself enjoy Rye, though there aren't many around. Â Old Overholt is common, and I recall that Wild Turkey makes a Rye. Â I'll have to search out the one you cite. Of course, a top-notch bourbon or a single malt whisky is a fine thing as well.

jcusey · Feb 11, 2005

Well, if we're trying to start a flamewar over Scotch, this ought to do it: I say that the perfect Scotch is ... Johnny Walker Black. Single malts be damned.

How do you expect to win a dick-swinging contest if you drink a girlie drink like that? Ardbeg or nothing, I say.

(Actually, I'm sipping on a Macallan 12 YO right now, and if I'm feeling frisky, I might move on to a Glenfarclas 12 YO after that. But Ardbeg is gooooood.)

Carlo · Feb 11, 2005

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(Carlo @ Feb. 10 2005,20:21) My favorites... Â Blanton's reserve and Old Weller. Â If you like Maker's Mark you should try Weller - they are both a slightly different character than most bourbons because they use wheat in the mash so are a little sweeter. Â I'm outta both but this discussion has me ready to raid the Knob Creek... also good.
My favorite is Van Winkle, which is another wheatie. I have the 10 YO, but there are a lot of different bottlings. Also excellent is the Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye.
AH Hirsch... have not seen it in a looong time. Last time was at a bar somewhere around DC... I remember it was really wonderful stuff.... Hmmm... gotta go look for that one now. If you find it down your way holler... worth the 4 hour drive. Will try the Van Winkle too. Oh hell, lets try all of'm

jcusey · Feb 11, 2005

Okay, it's really scary that you know this stuff; please tell me that you did some quick research on the web to come up with this.

I knew about Virginia Gentleman, A. H. Hirsch (been lusting after that one for a while, but it's extremely expensive), and Old Williamsburg (come on, how can you not remember a Kosher bourbon?). The others I got from the aforementioned The Book of Bourbon, which I was given as a gift several years ago.

I myself enjoy Rye, though there aren't many around. Old Overholt is common, and I recall that Wild Turkey makes a Rye. I'll have to search out the one you cite.

Jim Beam also has a rye, and Sazerac rye is well-regarded if pricey. Anchor Distillery (an offshoot of Anchor Brewery) also produces Old Potrero, which is an old-style rye (ie, very little aging) that is well-reputed. I've tried the Beam, the Wild Turkey, and the Van Winkle, and the Van Winkle is the best by a long shot. Truly a great whiskey.

jcusey · Feb 11, 2005

If you find it down your way holler... worth the 4 hour drive. Will try the Van Winkle too. Oh hell, lets try all of'm

Spec's has the Hirsch 16 YO for around $75 for a fifth. You can understand why I've just been lusting after it for a while. By all means, try it all. I don't drink that often, but I have tons of bottles because I just have to try one of each. Anyone who visits who doesn't know me probably thinks that I'm an alcoholic.

Carlo · Feb 11, 2005

For $75 we'll split one next time I'm down your way

It's worth it for the right occasion or the right cigar.

A Kosher bourbon, huh? Oh Sure, drink it... so what if you forget to call your mother.

jcusey · Feb 11, 2005

For $75 we'll split one next time I'm down your way It's worth it for the right occasion or the right cigar.

You're on.

A Kosher bourbon, huh? Oh Sure, drink it... so what if you forget to call your mother.

I don't get it. Based on what my Jewish friends have told me, bourbon is Kosher as it is. It's not like wine or Scotch, where it can be a tricky proposition. So why the need for a specially-labelled Kosher bourbon. (Jewish members, if I have erred egregiously, please just flame me gently...)

jcusey · Feb 11, 2005

jcusey: you owe me one.

Indeed I do. If you're ever in Houston, you can claim your fair share of that bottle of A. H. Hirsch that Chuck and I will be splitting.

hopkins_student · Feb 11, 2005

As the only Kentuckian (I believe), although I am currently living out of state, I feel that I should comment. While I do not drink bourbon, in Kentucky, Blanton's is believed to be the best. Just had to weigh in on the bourbon.

And bourbon only comes from Kentucky.

Carlo · Feb 11, 2005

Hopkins...

You only believe you are here alone because y'all can't (pronounced caint) hear me pronounce things when I am typing. Did you live closer to Loovuhl or Lex'nun?

Respectfully, sir, there is a Pitino signed Mitchell Tolle Wildcat print in my office and I still find it hard to believe that Derby Day has not surpassed Christmas in popularity nationwide. I know that the proper shoes for the Derby are spectators (grandstand) or waders (infield). I know that a "Go Kats" bumper sticker with pawprint on an old truck is not a spelling error. I know that a particularly cute cousin isn't really THAT off limits.

Shame on you for not recognizing kin when they are among you. Madison Central, EKU grad before I migrated toward the southwest for grad school (Tennessee, Ole Miss) and on to Dallas when it was time for a real job.

...and I know exactly what to wear when hanging burley to boot.

A Harris · Feb 11, 2005

Wow, what a thread..

About 'kissing buttons' on sleeves - 95% + Â of top end tailored goods, both RTW and bespoke have them. In my experience, spaced buttons (almost always) go hand in hand with shoddy custom tailoring. Which is evidence to me that a) it's a rule or b) it just looks better or c) both. I think c.

As for the rules, I say learn them so as to know best how to break them. But in 30 some-odd pages I'm sure someone said that already...

jcusey · Feb 11, 2005

About 'kissing buttons' on sleeves - 95% + of top end tailored goods, both RTW and bespoke have them. In my experience, spaced buttons (almost always) go hand in hand with shoddy custom tailoring. Which is evidence to me that a) it's a rule or b) it just looks better or c) both. I think c.

Yada, yada, yada. Get to the really important topic: what about the whiskey?

A Harris · Feb 11, 2005

Yada, yada, yada. Get to the really important topic: what about the whiskey?

I'm not much of a drinker, but I think I need some after reading this thread

Horace · Feb 11, 2005

Methinks, Horace, that Manton preaches to the converted. Were he to grunt and wipe drool from his chin, I am sure you would clap heartily and insist he gave Bresch a good thumping. YOU have pegged me as something, I have pegged you as a whiney boy who LOVES self-congratulation. I swear, I have never seen so many people in so small an (electronic) space who congratulate themselves so often.

Funny you should talk about MY profession's standards, Manton. Perhaps if YOU read better books you would see that these standards are pretty universal for learned people. And that publisher, would that be a vanity publisher Manton? And when and if that book is published, guess who will be posting self-laudatory anonymous Amazon reviews to boost sales?

I think if your universe of knowledge extended beyond what you learned in prep school, you would see that having read 58 books (wow, Manton, 58, did you take a long time to do that?) does not mean a whole lot when answering a question. Your gang seems to think I HAVE a position on the rule of kissing buttons, when I from the first, have merely ASKED about this rule, and I wondered how universal and widespread it was. Unfortunately, you have used this as an excuse for sophistry and showing off your knowledge of first year classics.

In MY experience, and I know this is a GENERALIZATION (not a RULE), people who repeat one qualification over and over and conveniently omit any other details, are usually devoid of self esteem and that qualification means a LOT to them. So Manton dear boy, those 58 books really is a lot, and I am so impressed with ALL the people you have spoken with, really.

As for you Horace, I have not figured out WHY someone repeatedly trolls and snipes at someone else in a forum, but it can't be a GOOD thing. And this obsession with what people were in prep school can't be a good thing either. Something tells me you are frustrated in your adult life. But that is just a guess of course. Let's just be clear, only you and a few of your Internet allies are impressed with your insults. You are winning no one over and you are not making any friends.

Do not flatter yourselves, your ridiculous "Socratic" reasoning has not "unhinged" me, just disappointed me.

I will let Horace and Manton, such learned gentlemen, have the last word on this subject, since they seem to enjoy that sort of thing, and love patting themselves on the back. Go ahead boys.

Bresh, I am not "whiney" nor do I think I've ever been self-congratulatory. I am, on occasion, self-satisfied though.

But the comments about your self-pitying tone were right on.

Jesus, good doc. Are you going to bill me for that diagnosis or is on the house? That's pretty astute analysis, though, all the same. I should consider the frustrations of my adult life (of which there are some).

You are taking these matters way to seriously. And making an ass of yourself.

I should know, I'm good at it.

I wish you wouldn't disparage socratic reasoning though, as Freud himself was a big fan. And you never did take Manton seriously. He took you that way.

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