Is black suit an acceptable business attire?

WTF.(5)

Manton the shoes you made for me are horrible, they're like 5 sizes too big

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Yeah, well, I did the best I could for a guy who's left foot is an 8AAA and his right is a 12E. And what kind of client asks for a round toe on one shoe and a chisel on the other? I saved you from a huge mistake, pal. You should be thanking me. Plus all your bitching about the angle of my bevelled waist pissed me off. You know nothing about shoes. I'm firing you as a client.

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I am still somewhat curious about what Alex Kabbaz thinks of David Bresch ... But like I said before, this is indeed like the neighborhood pub. I hope Bresch pops his head back in for a pint and understands that this was all done in the spirit of good fun and entertainment. David, come on over and let us refill your glass.

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I have expressed my opinion regarding David a number of times during this thread. Quite simply, we have he and Manton, both of whom I nominated about 20 pages ago as Posters of the Year, to thank for the existence of this thread. I third the invitation by you and j for DB to cozy back up to the bar. Any 34 page thread without a four-letter word certainly deserves a toast to one of the two primary participants. Flask Pocket: Cashmere Bourbon Drinking Shirt - Not made in Tennessee

I had no point of view Shoefan. I asked questions of Nicholas aka Manton, who represents himself as an expert on these matters. I got sarcasm back, and a LOT of begging the question, surely the most adolescent of rhetorical devices (or perhaps, rather, the device that lends itself so readily to adolescents). I neither believe there are rules nor do not believe there are rules, because the definition of "rule" in the realm of the sartorial strikes me as pretty amorphous. I am more interested in what other people think of them. But I guess Nicholas/Manton isn't talking, he will just hint at all that knowledge he possesses. I am sorry you think I was ill-mannered on AAAC, but I think if you read the other posts in that AAAC thread, you will find that my attackers were pretty damned unpleasant. All because I dared to use price as one dimension of quality, something someone wrote "does violence to the English language," in a thread dominated by the most expensive shirtmaker anyone has mentioned. So I became "the elitist," who prefers less expensive items (sic?). I am still scratching my head over that one, I have to admit.

So far as good fun or whatever, I don't get my kicks the way you all do. And funny thing is, neither do other hobby forums that I participate in on dogs, food, music, psychology, in fact of the fora I have visited only the clothing fora laud argument over substance or even over sticking to the topic of a thread. And when I have drinks with people, it is to support one another, not compare dicks.

But de gustibus...

That was highly uncalled for. You ought to apologize for ********* remark.

Ah heck Doc, hop on up to the bar and if comparisons need to be made sit next to me - you'll get a great laugh and feel like Conan by comparison. (C'mon - that made you laugh)

Alex: Jill's out of town - trade a Jaguar for a shirt while she's gone? Dat's purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrty.

Any 34 page thread without a four-letter word certainly deserves a toast to one of the two primary participants

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....countdown til someone gratuitously puts one in 3-2-1....

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I am still somewhat curious about what Alex Kabbaz thinks of David Bresch ... But like I said before, this is indeed like the neighborhood pub. I hope Bresch pops his head back in for a pint and understands that this was all done in the spirit of good fun and entertainment. David, come on over and let us refill your glass.
I have expressed my opinion regarding David a number of times during this thread. Quite simply, we have he and Manton, both of whom I nominated about 20 pages ago as Posters of the Year, to thank for the existence of this thread. I third the invitation by you and j for DB to cozy back up to the bar. Any 34 page thread without a four-letter word certainly deserves a toast to one of the two primary participants. Flask Pocket: Cashmere Bourbon Drinking Shirt - Not made in Tennessee
Now THAT's what I've always needed. A cashmere bourbon drinking shirt. Too too cool.

The temptation is great, but I would have to kick myself off. Dr., honestly, lighten UP.

Alias: Can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I, please please please please please please please please please?

Manton - only if you lead in with something about no hard feelings, all in good fun, just messin with ya...

Manton - only if you lead in with something about no hard feelings, all in good fun, just messin with ya...

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I can say in all honesty that I have absolutely no hard feelings, and that I have had and am having a ball. But I deny messing with him. I am attempting to debate him. If only he would debate back.

I can say in all honesty that I have absolutely no hard feelings, and that I have had and am having a ball.  But I deny messing with him.  I am attempting to debate him.  If only he would debate back.

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It's kind of frustrating having to debate someone with a knowledge of Socrates and such. Not everyone wants to engage in some sort of scholarly match or dialectic; sometimes they just want to talk. You may have to condescend to his level. Whether or not dicks are involved, I can't say.

Dr. Bresch: Don't go the "EVERYONE IS ATTACKING ME" route. That's what happened to marc, and he flamed out spectacularly. Take a break, relax, and rephrase your questions.

I asked questions of Nicholas aka Manton

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This is your new favorite device. Â You apparently think this makes you the second coming of Sherlock Holmes. Â But I am more interested in the underlying psychological reason why you think it is so important that you "expose" the "secret identity" of your opponents. Â My belief: it is easier, and more emotionally satisfying, than arguing substance. Â Which, in any case, is not your strong suit.

I got sarcasm back

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Yes, you did. Â I freely admit that. But you also got a lot of information, as much as I know on the topic at hand. Â You seem to have processed none of it.

and a LOT of begging the question

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Please point to one specific instance of my begging the question. Â I note that not once, when I have politely asked you to back up one of your myriad accusations, have you responded with a single example.

surely the most adolescent of rhetorical devices (or perhaps, rather, the device that lends itself so readily to adolescents).

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Please, please, give an example. Â Just once, to demonstrate that you can do it. Â And, by the way, the second half of that sentence makes no sense.

I neither believe there are rules nor do not believe there are rules, because the definition of "rule" in the realm of the sartorial strikes me as pretty amorphous. I am more interested in what other people think of them. But I guess Nicholas/Manton isn't talking

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My eyes rebell. Â Surely they deceive me. Â Can you really have written that? Â I have written thousands of words on this thread. Â And you accuse me of not talking?

he will just hint at all that knowledge he possesses.

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I have not hinted. Â Verily, I have spilled my guts. Â I have boldly claimed. I have hung my alleged knowledge out there, in public, for all to see, and to criticize, and to refute, and to denounce. Â I've heard a lot of denunciation, but zero refutation.

...Can you find an alleged bourbon not made in Kentucky that says Bourbon on the label? Can ya? Huh? Huh? Can ya? Can't can you.?.?.

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Aside from the aforementioned Virginia Gentleman, there's A. H. Hirsch from the now-closed Michter's Distillery in Shaefferstown, PA (reputedly excellent stuff, with a pricetag to match), Walker's DeLuxe Bourbon from Hiram Walker in Detroit, Yellowstone Bourbon from David Sherman in St. Louis, and Old Williamsburg Bourbon from the Royal Wine Corporation in Brooklyn, NY. The last is a certified Kosher bourbon.

I really wouldn't be interested in anything other than Virginia Gentleman and A. H. Hirsch, but you asked.

David: Thank you for your reply. Â I must say I don't understand how you have taken such umbrage at Manton's statements, and I think your responses have at times been quite petulant and juvenile, but that is of course your right. Regarding the AAAC topic, I would suggest that either your memory is not serving you well or you are being disingenuous. Â Much of that dispute did not relate to your definition of "quality," but rather your all-inclusive observation/criticism of the spending habits and financial responsibility of others (to wit, in the United States only the intelligentsia (and indeed, only a subset thereof) live within their means and are financially responsible), along with a few specific examples which you extended to apply to the whole population; these assertions raised the ire of many, both for reasons of illogic and their elitist tone Finally, your comment in your recent post:

So far as good fun or whatever, I don't get my kicks the way you all do.

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 I don't know to whom this statement is directed, so let me give you my response: I use these fora in order to try to learn and, where possible, add to others' knowledge.  I am not engaging in games or efforts at intellectual one-upmanship.  However, I do value truth, honesty, logic, and courtesy, so when I see these values compromised, I am sometimes moved to respond.  IMO, you are one of the participants who seems at times to behave in ways inconsistent with these values.