Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH
I just have a completely different pair of boots with lug soles for that.
yeah, I wear hiking boots with lug soles for when it's really snowing, but my dress boots with dainite are totally fine for normal winter wear. now, I also have a pair of boots with a smooth rubber sole, and those are useless in the winter. something like the standard Indy boot sole...those are really bad. I can see DWF's point that a worn, smooth topy would be bad on ice. fortunately mine haven't gotten there yet. so if the downside of topy is that it may at one point be worse than leather (but when new, is probably better), I will take that for the longevity + grip on wet pavement benefit. aesthetically they don't bother me at all, it's hardly noticeable really. though for dancing, yes, you certainly want pure leather. anyways, this is all a long way of saying what I said above, which is that I have some shoes with leather soles, some topy'd, some with Dainite, and some with lug vibram. they each have their best purpose, though all of them are fine for basic daily use