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Sounds like 8 would be a better fit then, no?

I tried on the 8 in the moc and I couldn't get my feet in plus my toes were getting crushed hence I ordered the 8.5 There is ample toe room in the 8.5, just a little loose with the heel slipping. i'm hoping maybe it will lessen when the sole breaks in. But like i said it feels a little snug with socks.

Irbe, it sounds like your loafers fit nearly the same as mine.

Started out with a little heel slip when sockless, and tight with even thin socks. They have definitely stretched out a bit, and the soles (leather in my case) have certainly broken in. Taken together, the stretch of the leather and the breaking in of the soles somewhat cancel each other out.

The following is all in regard to the current fit when sockless (with thin socks, the fit is perfect).

If I lift my foot up off the ground and shake it, the shoe stays secure on my foot with no flopping around. However, when walking, my foot does slide slightly forward on downslopes for example, and I need to make a conscious effort to push my heel back to go up stairs. Thus, heel slip is now negligible, but that is dependent on me consciously positioning my foot in the shoe to avoid it. Perhaps the current fit is not ideal, but I think that it works fine for "loafing". The loafers fit fine for strolling, but I would want a better fit for any more demanding than that. Luckily, just throwing on socks provides the ideal fit. Also, I haven't tried tongue pads yet, but they may provide a more ideal fit.

If I could do it over, I might size down in length or width, but I think that would make the shoe only appropriate for sockless wear and perhaps too tight. But I'm not sure.

Hope that helps.



irbe said:

Just got my SA x Beefroll Pennies. Love the construction. When wearing sock less do you guys have a little heel slip? Not sure if this is normal for loafers as this is my first pair. I went with an 8.5 which is fine around the toes, but the heel area is just a little loose with no socks. With socks (Plan to be wearing these in the fall) the shoe is fine. My concern is the shoe might stretch too big as I've heard how easily the chromexel leather can stretch.
Thanks

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The only stretch I've had with chromexel leather is side-to-side (space for my little toe, lacing gap). I've never had front-to-back stretching. I'm sure that could vary dramatically with how you wear your shoes, walk, etc.

My CXL Ranger Mocs have stretched a little in length since I started putting spring-loaded shoe trees in them between wears. Until then, they had only stretched a bit in width from actual wear.



Kashiwa said:

If I could do it over, I might size down in length or width, but I think that would make the shoe only appropriate for sockless wear and perhaps too tight. But I'm not sure.
Hope that helps.

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Go sockless or don't go at all . . .



prozach1576 said:

My CXL Ranger Mocs have stretched a little in length since I started putting spring-loaded shoe trees in them between wears. Until then, they had only stretched a bit in width from actual wear.

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Same with my Venetians. I don't put shoe trees in them anymore.

I put a strip of adhesive backed moleskin on the back heel of my ranger mocs to help with slight heel slip. Works pretty well sockless.

Got my beefroll penny loafers from Steven Alan today. I was concerned they were too snug at first but after wearing them around the house and letting them warm up they fit great. I would absolutely need an E-width if they were lined though.

But for what I paid, I feel like I stole them.



ElDave said:

Got my beefroll penny loafers from Steven Alan today. I was concerned they were too snug at first but after wearing them around the house and letting them warm up they fit great. I would absolutely need an E-width if they were lined though.
But for what I paid, I feel like I stole them.

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how did you size?



tv2177 said:

how did you size?

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I purchased an 11D. That's what Kyle Rancourt advised (when I was looking at an unlined MTO pair).

For reference, I am a 10.5D in the Alden Barrie last and an 11E in the Allen Edmonds 5-last. On the Brannock, I am a solid 11 and just barely an E-width.

And holy cow these things are comfortable after two hours of wear (around the house so minimal walking). I was a little worried that the white sole would be a bit overpowering given my shoe size but they look great.

^^ +1 On comfort. And that is also how I sized (but Barrie fits me large even a half size down).

Any of you ride Brooks Saddles?



(one of my B-17s, this one in British Racing Green)

I'm a devout Brooks rider for the comfort they provide. Brooks are basically like a hammock for your rear, as you sit on the leather stretched across the under-frame and not directly on the frame itself.

I wonder if there is some similarity between the "hammock" effect of a Brooks and the comfort provided by the handsewn wrapping around your foot?

Just a thought. Just wondering why these things are so damn comfy.

Does anyone have experience with any of the "dress" loafers? Looking at either the pennies or the buckle.

http://www.rancourtandcompany.com/men-s/dress.html

rancourt just put up a bunch of venetian loafers

http://www.rancourtandcompany.com/men-s/venetian-loafers-1.html

^Wow. They went with some color there. Very cool. Somehow I'm drawn to the white. I like the explanation of the sizing number on the plug. This Utica leather looks like it's grained, right?