tjchung
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Hello, I'm new here and I joined because I'm curious about some old leather bags that recently came into my posession. I asked around, and someone told me that if anybody could help me with vintage bags and stuff, it was the people on this forum.
There are 4 bags. 2 are really really big and heavy, with leather straps and brass fastenings. Someone told me they might be called Gladstone bags. 1 is a smaller version of the larger 2, but doesn't have any leather straps. The 4th looks like a messenger bag, except its made of the same thick leather as the others, and has a metal frame inside the opening that makes it open like an old fashioned coin purse.
I've included some pics. You can see the heavy brown leather and straps of the 2 big bags. They're REALLY heavy, I'd say at least 10 lbs each. The leather is thick and brown, smells nice but is rough and wrinkly, even cracking in some places where it folds.
These are pics of the the larger of the 2 big bags. The dimensions are about 26 inches wide, 16 deep and 15 high. This is when the bag is empty. I'm sure that if its filled to the brim, the height could be a few inches taller. The lining seems to be checkered cotton, linen or some sort of natural fabric but its dark, a little stained and loose from the outer shell. The previous owner says he put on some "Peccards Antique Leather Dressing", which explains that the leather is a little waxy and sticky in some places. I hope it doesn't do any harm. You can't see it in the pictures but there are the letters "TM" embosssed in black in the center of one side panel.
Here are some pics of the smaller of the 2 big bags. The leather is a little smoother than the larger one, and is more supple around the folds. Dimensions are about 24 inches wide, 16 deep and 15 high. The lining is dark beige, and is the same natural fabric as the first one except is in better condition and is attached to the outer shell. Theres no leather treatment on this bag and it actually feels a lot smoother than the larger one. There is a small paper label that looks like some kind of travel sticker. But its glued on and I don't want to try and peel it off as the glude residue might look unsightly.
Here are some pics of the smaller bag. As you can see, its pretty much a miniature of the 2 larger bags, except that it doesn't have straps and the metal hardware isn't brass but might be cast metal or tin, maybe nickel. Not too sure. Dimensions are about 16 inches long, 12 deep and 10 high. The lining is the same natural fabric in dark beige. Overall condition is pretty good, almost good enough to take on a short trip, although I'm afraid it might hurt the leather or reduce the value.
The last pic is of the messenger bag. Its almost the same leather as the other 3 bags, which leads me to believe its from the same time period. The leather is in really good shape aside from a stain on the back side of the bag thats not visible from the front. There's no fabric lining but leather. Maybe its the inner side of the outer leather shell? If you flip up the outer flap, you can see the same "push type" clasp as the 3rd bag, and the the bag opens like an old coin purse, with a hinged frame inside that is really similar to the frames of the first 3 bags.
In all 4 bags, the leather is really thick and strong. In the case of the larger 2 bags, the size of the side panels are really large yet the makers used a single piece of leather, which even I know is rare these days. If you look closely at the leather, there are these minute grooves that feel wonderful. I don't know if these are the natural wrinkles of the hide, or if they are some kind of embossing.
Anyway, to close a long first post I'd like to end by asking if anybody here can tell me anything about them, where they were made, who made them, if they are worth anything today, whether or not it would be adviseable to use them, display them, store them, sell them, repair them or junk them, etc.
Many thanks in advance.
There are 4 bags. 2 are really really big and heavy, with leather straps and brass fastenings. Someone told me they might be called Gladstone bags. 1 is a smaller version of the larger 2, but doesn't have any leather straps. The 4th looks like a messenger bag, except its made of the same thick leather as the others, and has a metal frame inside the opening that makes it open like an old fashioned coin purse.
I've included some pics. You can see the heavy brown leather and straps of the 2 big bags. They're REALLY heavy, I'd say at least 10 lbs each. The leather is thick and brown, smells nice but is rough and wrinkly, even cracking in some places where it folds.
These are pics of the the larger of the 2 big bags. The dimensions are about 26 inches wide, 16 deep and 15 high. This is when the bag is empty. I'm sure that if its filled to the brim, the height could be a few inches taller. The lining seems to be checkered cotton, linen or some sort of natural fabric but its dark, a little stained and loose from the outer shell. The previous owner says he put on some "Peccards Antique Leather Dressing", which explains that the leather is a little waxy and sticky in some places. I hope it doesn't do any harm. You can't see it in the pictures but there are the letters "TM" embosssed in black in the center of one side panel.
Here are some pics of the smaller of the 2 big bags. The leather is a little smoother than the larger one, and is more supple around the folds. Dimensions are about 24 inches wide, 16 deep and 15 high. The lining is dark beige, and is the same natural fabric as the first one except is in better condition and is attached to the outer shell. Theres no leather treatment on this bag and it actually feels a lot smoother than the larger one. There is a small paper label that looks like some kind of travel sticker. But its glued on and I don't want to try and peel it off as the glude residue might look unsightly.
Here are some pics of the smaller bag. As you can see, its pretty much a miniature of the 2 larger bags, except that it doesn't have straps and the metal hardware isn't brass but might be cast metal or tin, maybe nickel. Not too sure. Dimensions are about 16 inches long, 12 deep and 10 high. The lining is the same natural fabric in dark beige. Overall condition is pretty good, almost good enough to take on a short trip, although I'm afraid it might hurt the leather or reduce the value.
The last pic is of the messenger bag. Its almost the same leather as the other 3 bags, which leads me to believe its from the same time period. The leather is in really good shape aside from a stain on the back side of the bag thats not visible from the front. There's no fabric lining but leather. Maybe its the inner side of the outer leather shell? If you flip up the outer flap, you can see the same "push type" clasp as the 3rd bag, and the the bag opens like an old coin purse, with a hinged frame inside that is really similar to the frames of the first 3 bags.
In all 4 bags, the leather is really thick and strong. In the case of the larger 2 bags, the size of the side panels are really large yet the makers used a single piece of leather, which even I know is rare these days. If you look closely at the leather, there are these minute grooves that feel wonderful. I don't know if these are the natural wrinkles of the hide, or if they are some kind of embossing.
Anyway, to close a long first post I'd like to end by asking if anybody here can tell me anything about them, where they were made, who made them, if they are worth anything today, whether or not it would be adviseable to use them, display them, store them, sell them, repair them or junk them, etc.
Many thanks in advance.