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Vass bespoke

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by intfxdx, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. intfxdx

    intfxdx Senior member

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    I will flight to Budapest for getting my first bespoke shoes tomorrow. And as already there i was thinking to order 2 other shoes so that i can pay directly (so that i won't have to pay for customs when they ship shoes to me, that's the reason)
    I have already rtw vass shoes and they fit quite good and i do love the quality but i found a thread everybody saying that vass are not bespoke. so why vass are not considered bespoke ? do you think that i should pay 200Euros less and get some rtw shoes ? Thanks for advices
     


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  3. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    Vass not bespoke,
    it made to measure system,
    but with ideal foot it can work well me think.

    1, limited to set patterns for upper
    2, me think there limit on making a last fit good.
    Will Vass cut down shoe last for special customer with low instep?
    Will Vass file under a shoe last to make it fit foot good on foot bed?
    Will Vass make any last shape custom want?
    Me think Vass not do this,
    bespoke do this.
    Me think Vass mtm work well for some people but it could be bad for some feet.
    3, very limit leather and color choose
    4, will Vass do 12 spi on sole and other fine detail?
    Me think Vass not do this.
    5, will Vass make shoe tree to fit mtm shoe or use stock tree?

    See,
    shoe making system to limit to be called bespoke,
    but man can get good fit from mtm Vass if man have good foot.

    Think here,
    can Vass make new pattern and last and trees and offer hundred of leathers for $200 extra?
    Me say no.
    Will Vass cut down last when needed?
    Me say no likely
     
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  4. intfxdx

    intfxdx Senior member

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    Thanks for the informations. i do like the style and upper, no problem with that but i hope that they are more confortable.. well i will check it if there is no improvement i will order rtw..
     


  5. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    this discussion is so tiresome. it gets annoying. have you ever been to budapest? have you ever worked with a hungarian maker directly? tbh, if not, just stfu. many thanks
     


  6. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    Do Vass make individual pattern for client shoe?
    Do Vass cut down a last for some client?
    Do Vass make a custom tree for some client?
    Me make good discussion and ask good question here,
    no need to be annoyed,
    that silly. :fu:
     


  7. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    nope
     


  8. MrInvariant

    MrInvariant Senior member

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    You will probably still have to pay customs if they ship it to you.
     


  9. intfxdx

    intfxdx Senior member

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    Frtitzl i guess you know better than me shoe making. do you think ghat bespoke at vass would be more confortable ?? I am 100% satisfied with vass. Their shoes are 100% bettet than cj i can say as a just wearer and not expert. I am hesitating to go rtw as rtw also excellent at vass...
     


  10. intfxdx

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    I will ask them to ship it as gift with 30euros value and it willbe fine. that's possible if paid in cash
     


  11. MrInvariant

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    If they are willing to do that, then yes.
    Let us know how it goes.
     


  12. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    well, i'm not a shoemaker. i can say, that i have some experience with the austro-hungarian tradition of shoemaking, though.

    imo, fit is a very individual thing. i cannot stand snug fitting shoes. i just don't like it. go figure

    as you said. your satisfaction ratio is already high. so what do you expect to improve?

    keep us updated please.
     


  13. intfxdx

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    Well i have one feet , not exactly, but almost one size bigger so that i am not vety confortable at the waist level of feet ( where there is a curve) . that makes a little pain if i have a long day. i am wearing dress shoes everyday i am a banker. so confort is really importanr for me. i also have happen to have narrow heels. i will be in budapest in 2h.. i will report sunday.
     


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    ah, ok. i hope you brought your other vass for inspection?
     


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    I realize I am breaking one of my own rules here, but perhaps you care to enlighten the rest of us: how is SoS post not helpful? Just curious what I am missing. Perhaps I should add that I am a happy Vass customer.
     


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