Sub-cultures with fashion but no style

[London Rudeboy]

Ah well, nevermind!

 

[Blackhood]

Cultures don't have style, people do. You can put two people in identical outfits and one could make women swoon while the other looks ridiculous.

 

[London Rudeboy]

Nevermind

 

[brad-t]

So basically anything that isn't sufficiently classic or masculine is not considered stylish by you. Thanks for your ****** opinion, may I direct you to Men's Clothing?

Sounds like you're using the word "style" when what you mean is "taste", too.

 

[London Rudeboy]

Nevermind

 

[LA Guy]



Could you possibly understand even less?

I think goths are stylish, I go to quite a few goth gigs and festivals and think that the EBM, synth, goth crowd are very stylish. It has absolutely bugger all to do with masculinity or classic clothing...but I assume you've got a huge chip on your shoulder.

I'm very confused then. You imply that there is some context blind metric of whether a certain look is "stylish" or not, but it's hard from your examples to determine what that metric or set of metrics might be. At least the "classic clothing" people are consistent.

 

[Nereis]

So... there exist subcultures with aesthetic sensibilities that do not agree with your take on what looks good? I had no idea really.

 

[pebblegrain]

worthless ******* thread. thanks.

 

[London Rudeboy]

Nevermind.

 

[London Rudeboy]

Nevermind

 

[London Rudeboy]

Nevermind

 

[Bradford]

I'm going to nominate hipsters...

 

[Bam!ChairDance]



I don't understand your English "contect blind metric?"  "what that metric or set of metrics might be"   What does all that mean?

He's saying you've introduced this topic without having in mind a consistent set of rules for what qualifies a subculture as "having style." But it sounds like you haven't quite worked these things out yourself.

 

[Nereis]

Without going into the intricacies of cultural relativism insofar as aesthetic value judgments are made, I think we can all agree that what looks good to us can change depending on our background and associated cultural baggage. I'm certain a punk would think that the movement was stylish.

Hence, making any statement that a subculture's taste in clothing is not 'stylish' is equivalent to saying that 'I don't like their clothes', rather than any real prescription as to whether or not there is such a thing as 'style' that can be pinned down in an objective sense. This is where some self awareness and reflexivity can come in handy.

So while I don't enjoy the urban lumberjack or gothninja look myself, I would not go so far as to say that the an subculture is 'unstylish'.

For this thread, better terminology would be 'closer to mainstream', 'classical', 'has lasting power/relevance' etc.

/soapbox

 

[London Rudeboy]

Ah well. Nevermind.