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Pleats with plain bottoms

acez29

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Hi all, first time posting on the forum.

About to order 3 suits, was planning on ordering the flat fronts with plain bottoms (no cuffs), but my leg and butt muscles are too big and need to get pleats to make the pants fit decently.

Now that I'm locked in on pleats, would plain bottoms look ok?
 

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Originally Posted by acez29
Hi all, first time posting on the forum.

About to order 3 suits, was planning on ordering the flat fronts with plain bottoms (no cuffs), but my leg and butt muscles are too big and need to get pleats to make the pants fit decently.

Now that I'm locked in on pleats, would plain bottoms look ok?



I'm not an expert, but supposedly if you have flat fronts, you do not get cuffs. However, if you have pleats, you should get cuffs. With that said, the apparent exception, or at least suggested exception, is that you do not cuff plated pants if you are on the shorter side. How the "shorter side" is defined is not clear to me, but maybe 5'6" and shorter?
 

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if you are going to something more formal, then the rules of no cuff with flat fronts, pleats with cuffs, will apply. if it's a more casual outing, i'd say screw it, do whatever the hell you want
 

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Originally Posted by acez29
Hi all, first time posting on the forum.

About to order 3 suits, was planning on ordering the flat fronts with plain bottoms (no cuffs), but my leg and butt muscles are too big and need to get pleats to make the pants fit decently.

Now that I'm locked in on pleats, would plain bottoms look ok?


With single breasteds, OK. Always cuff DBs.
 

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Personally, I think plain bottoms look just fine with DBs as in this example from 1906:

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Admittedly, this pre-dates pleated trousers. Nonetheless, this is how I have my plain front brace trousers made.

One more practical issue is that cuffs/turn-ups add weight to the hems when the fabric is lightweight (<12 Oz). Plain bottoms work better with heavier fabrics, which remain neat and tidy without the extra help from the added fold of fabric.
 

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I think one should be wary of the ubiquitously parrotted advice about cuffs making the leg look shorter etc. The reason is that the fabrics being used today for trousers are much lighter than they used to be. In order to preserve a cleaner drop of the hems (to keep the front seam clean and straight) a lighter fabric needs the extra weight of cuffs. A shorter person can always compensate by making the cuff proportionately narrower.
 

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personally i think no cuffs on pleated trousers works fine so long as they are single reverse pleats.
 

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"Parroting?"

Cuffs cut 3" off of your height, ask someone who's objective or almost any woman. If you can afford it go for it, but I'm 6' and it's noticable on me, especially if the legs have a taper to them.

To the OP, buy what you look best in and screw rules. If you decide on flat fronts get them big enough to fit you and find a good tailor.
 

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also screw the height rule, and look at the lenght of your leg. I am 6' tall with a 31&quot; leg (ie short legs for my height) no cuffs works well for me in some pants with pleats
 

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