MLK's Mountaintop Speech

[Margaret]

Ugh, let's not turn this into a CE thread.

 

[Southern-Nupe]

Originally Posted by Margaret

Ugh, let's not turn this into a CE thread.
It's my mission to turn every post into a CE thread.

....besides, I agree with FLMountainMan, MLK was a very powerful speaker, both he and Churchill offered some of my favorite speeches and quotes.

 

[FLMountainMan]

Originally Posted by Southern-Nupe

At what point did I state 'what party loves Black people more'? I merely stated historical evidence of the political line as it related to Blacks and the Civil Rights movement. I suggest you take a look at the past threads I've posted in, you'd be surprised to learn that I'm actually an independent, and don't believe in giving either party my full allegiance, (based solely on the fact it's individuals, not the parties that would have my best interests in heart). Did you assume because I'm Black, I stand behind the Democratic party 100%?

....and Cosby is not as conservative as some would think (I support nearly everything he stated), regardless I do agree with your view on the media's representation of Jesse Jackson as the official leader for all Black people.


Yeah, I actually wasn't directing that at you, I was trying to stave off the inevitable CE-type debate on here (thanks, Margaret), kind of a pre-emptive strike against the Liberty Ship-types who try to turn everything partisan.

And I used Cosby as a very broad black conservative (which I tried to make clear in my post - I couldn't think of a recognizable black conservative that would fit well - Jesse Peterson? Ward Connerly?), I know he's really not very politically conservative at all. I meant it more the way my following sentence meant - along the lines of the media/white people using Jesse Jackson to paint all black people as thinking his way, while isolating Bill Cosby as some outlier.

 

[jpeirpont]

Originally Posted by FLMountainMan

Yeah, I actually wasn't directing that at you, I was trying to stave off the inevitable CE-type debate on here (thanks, Margaret), kind of a pre-emptive strike against the Liberty Ship-types who try to turn everything partisan.

And I used Cosby as a very broad black conservative (which I tried to make clear in my post - I couldn't think of a recognizable black conservative that would fit well - Jesse Peterson? Ward Connerly?), I know he's really not very politically conservative at all. I meant it more the way my following sentence meant - along the lines of the media/white people using Jesse Jackson to paint all black people as thinking his way, while isolating Bill Cosby as some outlier.
People tend to forget Jesse agreed with Bill the day he first made the "pound cake" speech.

 

[jpeirpont]

Originally Posted by Southern-Nupe

It's primarily because of the 'Dixiecrats" and the fact the majority of Dems at the time were the primary supporters of Jim Crow and segregation ie George Wallace, Thurman, etc. It wasn't until 1964-65, that these lines began to shift.

Consequently, many of the Dixiecrats switched parties.

Nupe you need to learn how to ignore certain types.

 

[Southern-Nupe]

Originally Posted by FLMountainMan

Yeah, I actually wasn't directing that at you, I was trying to stave off the inevitable CE-type debate on here (thanks, Margaret), kind of a pre-emptive strike against the Liberty Ship-types who try to turn everything partisan.

And I used Cosby as a very broad black conservative (which I tried to make clear in my post - I couldn't think of a recognizable black conservative that would fit well - Jesse Peterson? Ward Connerly?), I know he's really not very politically conservative at all. I meant it more the way my following sentence meant - along the lines of the media/white people using Jesse Jackson to paint all black people as thinking his way, while isolating Bill Cosby as some outlier.
My fault, otherwise you selected some great speakers.

 

[Southern-Nupe]

Originally Posted by jpeirpont

Nupe you need to learn how to ignore certain types.
True,

I thought the poster who refered to MLK as a Repub, was just stating a fact (which is close, but not completely true). I didn't think he meant any ill will, I was just reiterating the reasons why.