Is this a good undergrad school for Business?

[The Snob]

Originally Posted by TheApple

Wouldnt it be better to have a 3.9 than a 4.0? Doesnt the 3.9 show that your school just doesnt give out A's? Or am I being silly?

hahaha. maybe that is the case if you go to some school no one has ever heard of. but no one is going to castrate you if you do have a 4.0 and misrepresent your GPA as a 3.9 on your resume (if you're so concerned).

in general, i've never heard of this.

also, if your gpa is substantially high, you'll be phi beta kappa which is something you should aim for esp. if you're coming from a not-as-well-known school.

 

[TheApple]

Rutgers New Brunswick is pretty well-known though.

 

[btinl]

Originally Posted by TheApple

Rutgers New Brunswick is pretty well-known though.

At this point, it seems that you are trying to convince yourself that Rutgers is good school for business.

 

[w.mj]

Originally Posted by TheApple

Rutgers New Brunswick is pretty well-known though.

I'm beginning to think this thread is a bit of a send-up. You're not even in school yet. If you want to do IBD at a major firm, pick a math-based major and get great grades. Math, Economics, Physics, maybe Finance.

If your grades are good enough, consider transferring to a better school. I had a friend who transferred from Villanova to NYU Stern with a 3.5 after 2 years. Shouldn't be too hard.

In answer to your question about how high a GPA you need, well let me relate a little anecdote to you. At UPenn's OCR (on campus recruiting) this year, the recruiters from one bulge-bracket picked up the stack of resumes, threw everything below a 3.8 out and then started making cuts. In short, if a 3.7 from Wharton isn't cutting it, a 3.7 from Rutgers wouldn't get a second look.

Conclusion: just work hard and get good grades. The first opportunity for a real internship is the summer after your sophomore year, so just concentrate on school for a bit.

 

[edinatlanta]

Originally Posted by TheApple

Wouldnt it be better to have a 3.9 than a 4.0? Doesnt the 3.9 show that your school just doesnt give out A's? Or am I being silly?

Have you read any of your thread?

 

[TheApple]

Originally Posted by btinl

At this point, it seems that you are trying to convince yourself that Rutgers is good school for business.
Not at all. I apply for their business school at the end of my sophomore year. I have the opportunity to apply to other B Schools as well (NYU Stern for example which was mentioned above). Going to NYU Stern would cost me around an extra $30,000 a year, but im sure it would be more than worth it. Maybe thats what I will do. Apply to NYU Stern Undergrad for Business after i complete my soph. year.

 

[TheApple]

Originally Posted by w.mj

I'm beginning to think this thread is a bit of a send-up. You're not even in school yet. If you want to do IBD at a major firm, pick a math-based major and get great grades. Math, Economics, Physics, maybe Finance. If your grades are good enough, consider transferring to a better school. I had a friend who transferred from Villanova to NYU Stern with a 3.5 after 2 years. Shouldn't be too hard. In answer to your question about how high a GPA you need, well let me relate a little anecdote to you. At UPenn's OCR (on campus recruiting) this year, the recruiters from one bulge-bracket picked up the stack of resumes, threw everything below a 3.8 out and then started making cuts. In short, if a 3.7 from Wharton isn't cutting it, a 3.7 from Rutgers wouldn't get a second look. Conclusion: just work hard and get good grades. The first opportunity for a real internship is the summer after your sophomore year, so just concentrate on school for a bit.
Finance is not something I am definitely going to major in either. Its something I am considering. Although after researching, I found out that it is a lot of hard work and long hours. Damn, I've got a lot of work ahead of me. Especially losing 100-0 before the game even started. Damn Ivy Leaguers...

 

[suited]

Originally Posted by TheApple

Finance is not something I am definitely going to major in either. Its something I am considering. Although after researching, I found out that it is a lot of hard work and long hours.
If you're not completely passionate about something, why are you doing it? It seems as though I see a lot of people putting themselves through a lot of stress, trying to achieve a near perfect GPA, all to do something for the rest of their life that they aren't really interested in...how much sense does that make? If you're going to go balls to the wall and bust your ass to get somewhere, you better enjoy what you're doing, because it would be pretty silly to dedicate much of your life and career to something that doesn't spark your interest.

 

[MetroStyles]

Word of advice: Finance sucks cock. It really really blows. Don't do it.

BUT - if after four years you still feel like it's the thing for you, the best way to get your foot in the door is not a finance or business degree. It's a quantitative major like engineering or even CS. Take finance courses on the side as well of course to be literate at the interviews. But the engineering degree is what will set you apart - it shows you know how to be quantitative. Economics sure as hell doesn't teach you that.

 

[Paerra]

If I were you, I would transfer to a better B-School. I'm thinking along the lines of UPenn, UVa, ND, UMich, NYU, MIT, UT, UCB, UW, UI, UIUC, Cornell, etc etc. It's not really about the Ivy League - that's a major misconception, and clearly a lot of the advice spewed out here is speculatory or anecdotal: the "2 Piles" theory, the "99% of Wall Street bankers are Ivy League legacies", etc etc. If you look at some real employment statistics, you'll realize that's hyperbole. However, you will need a high GPA from a school where top companies typically recruit. Obviously it helps to be Ivy League if you want a high-powered job immediately, but it's not the end-all. Top companies usually seek out grads from the schools at the front of this list: Business Week. It's a good starting point.

 

[TheApple]

Things aren't looking too good.

 

[haithman]

Originally Posted by w.mj

At UPenn's OCR (on campus recruiting) this year, the recruiters from one bulge-bracket picked up the stack of resumes, threw everything below a 3.8 out and then started making cuts. In short, if a 3.7 from Wharton isn't cutting it, a 3.7 from Rutgers wouldn't get a second look.


And you would know this how?

 

[w.mj]

Originally Posted by haithman

And you would know this how?

The recruiters at a school are often students who graduated from that school 1-2 years prior.

 

[JSC437]

Originally Posted by MetroStyles

Word of advice: Finance sucks cock. It really really blows. Don't do it.

BUT - if after four years you still feel like it's the thing for you, the best way to get your foot in the door is not a finance or business degree. It's a quantitative major like engineering or even CS. Take finance courses on the side as well of course to be literate at the interviews. But the engineering degree is what will set you apart - it shows you know how to be quantitative. Economics sure as hell doesn't teach you that.

I agree with what he said..... Do an undergrad in something math-like... then get the grad degree in finance or econ or something.

Unless of course you go to Harvard or Yale, etc.. as an undergrad. Then u can major in just about anything and still get a good job in Finance.

 

[Tad Ferguson]

If in 4 years you are still considering an MBA, I would recommend looking at UofC and Northwestern. They are both consistently ranked in the top 20 in various publications.