Help me decode "business casual" for this internship!

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  1. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Senior member

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    Congrat's on the internship.

    When HR says "Jeans are ok," then that means that it's practically a free for all. Everything that you described seems fine. OP, this is probably the most easy to deal with "business casual" issue that I've seen here. Do you need us to help you wipe your behind too?
     
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  2. Troilus

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    I see interns with ties and no jackets all the time. I identify them by the fact they come to work with ties and no jackets.
     
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    If I were him and I wore wool pants and someone said something to me about overdressing, I'd say go to hell. That is asinine.
     
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  4. VinnyMac

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    No you wouldn't. You're going to screw up his internship.
     
  5. archibaldleach

    archibaldleach Senior member

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    Yes, because telling off your bosses as a lowly intern in a crappy economy is a good move...


    Exactly why he should not go for this look.
     
  6. Master-Classter

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    Op I would say well pressed and slim (not tight) cotton pants are ok for most of the USA, wool pants (keep the patterns to a minimal) are ok too. OCBD's are a casual dress shirt so you're good there (no french cuffs), a watch is completely optional so don't worry about it too much. I would also suggest trying to add other layers in like a nice sweater when it's cooler. I also always kept a sportscoat at my desk or nearby incase we had a meeting or something came up when we had to go visit a client.

    My first day of an internship I went 'security guard', ie black shoes and belt, grey pants, white ocbd, and navy blazer. Can't say I ever felt comfortable wearing jeans to the office. As a matter of fact, it was exactly because I was an intern that I felt like I had something to prove and always look polished and professional.

    Remember, we dress well out of respect for the others and the environment we're in. Dressing well shows you respect the company and your peers.
     
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  7. add911_11

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    Stop living in a fantasy world, the majority of employer don't tell a office boy off because they wear wool pants.
    The point above about 'dressing well shows you respect the company and your peers' is absolute correct.
     
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  8. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Senior member

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    Obviously, reading comprehension isn't your "go-to move." I didn't say anything about telling off, being told off or wool pants, for that matter. I simply said that the other poster wouldn't tell a co-worker to "go to hell" for questioning his outfit and that such an attitude could ruin OP's internship. Thank you for identifying yourself as the thread idiot.
     
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  9. cosmic

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    For business casual I would start with a navy suit sans tie. It looks sharp but not too formal, and it's always better to be dressed a bit smarter than a bit more casual than everyone else in the office. Button down shirt is fine. If you arrive and everyone is in jeans and t-shirts, just leave the top 2 buttons undone, take off your jacket, and roll up your sleeves - you'll look a bit overdressed but not too much.

    Then once you've assessed exactly how casual everyone else is, you can scale it down a bit. Dark/mid-blue or mid/light grey sport coats (or brown), maybe with some pattern (herringbone, subtle windowpane etc), with mid-grey flannels or tan/stone coloured chinos, or good jeans. Casual suits e.g. dark blue linen, tan solid, light grey flannel look great. For shoes try dark brown leather monk straps, chelsea boots, or mink suede oxfords; loafers in spring/summer. This is a chance to wear all that smart/casual stuff that formal business environments don't allow, and which can be a bit too smart for many social occasions nowadays.

    A good smart/casual standby where a suit (even without tie) is too formal is mid/dark blue sport coat, light blue shirt, and tan chinos, with dark brown suede oxfords and a brown leather belt.
     
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    Possibly, but overdressing a bit is never fatal, underdressing can be.

    Sport coats are the bedrock of business casual, and you can always take them off once at the office. A gentleman should never be caught without a jacket to hand.
     
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    IMO you should never wear a suit with a tie. It doesn't look good in most cases and it's what most lazy people did after their offices went from business formal to business casual. That, or it looks like you forgot your tie rushing out the door. If people are wearing jeans, he does not need to be in a suit. Odd jacket and trousers will be more than fine.
     
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    Don't think co-workers tell people off or question interns by dressing smart. I understand your anxiety for dressing well but yet worry about what other people think. It is alright.
     
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    Dude,you sound like a nice young man so please stop worrying about stupid things like what kind of watch you should be wearing...As long as you turn up well presented and do your job well nobody will care about . Good luck with your new position and all the best..
     
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