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Esquire September 2006

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by chorse123, Aug 15, 2006.

  1. Alter

    Alter Senior member

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    Uninspired is the right word. I didn't think the clothes came from the Gap; it is the look of these advertising images. But the Gap isn't right, they have more of a K-Mart sense of color coordination.
     
  2. funk_soul_brother

    funk_soul_brother Senior member

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    Gah.

    I guess I'm just not a fan of bright colours. I hate the look of that orange sweater in the second look.

    The first one is not bad, though I'd only keep the jacket/shoes/jeans and change the colours of the shirt/cardigan/tie.
     
  3. AlanC

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    No, those photos and that style is definitely not the GAP. The garments are high quality, and the ensembles remarkably uninspired. I would guess Paul Stuart or Ben Silver, or one of those shops where old guys who wear their trousers high and bitch and moan about young people shop.
    LOL

    LA Guy has a good eye, but not quite right. They're from Turnbull & Asser's sites.
     
  4. Joel_Cairo

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    edit: oops, misread a previous reply!
     
  5. LA Guy

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    LOL

    LA Guy has a good eye, but not quite right. They're from Turnbull & Asser's sites.


    Yeah, figures. Luciano Barbera (not Luciano Barbera as seen through Neiman Marcus eyes) could have pulled this off. Turnbull & Asser, not so much. In the States, probably the only store I've seen do this type of thing nearly perfectly is Bergdorfs, and to a lesser degree, Louis Boston (although they often have to throw in something like a Dries van Noten cracked blue leather peacoat (oh, how I longed for that piece) to make the look work) and Wilkes Bashford (but they often put such ensembles in remarkable window displays that dazzle the eye - the ensembles inside the store are not nearly as visually arresting. Ron Herman does great riffs off this theme (say, a Margiela wrinkled Safari jacket, a crumpled blue and pink checked shirt under a really beautiful chestnut v-neck, some really slim mid-grey flannels, and Chucks), but Angelenos can do that thrown together, nothing really coherent, look the way New Yorkers can only dream of (even when a lot of the pieces are by NYC based designers!)
     
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    I agree with Mike C. abou the first look, but I don't like the second look either. I find the outfit undersaturated in color, and lacking in visual interest. Either they have to throw in more contrasting colors or a clashing color in there (the orange/red sweater is not striking enough to really be the accent piece), or it needs a pattern. I would for both.

    Substitute a chocolate sportcoat with a windowpane pattern, and switch out the sweater with a burnt orange one, and you get a much better (and more seasonal) look, imo.

    I personally don't like chinos - have worn jeans since HS, and plan to keep doing so, but I would wear a pair of surplus pants.



    I Love the idea of the chocolate sportcoat and the burnt orange. I think I will have to try that look out for myself. I'm not to crazy about the shoes though, would prefer something different but I really like it especially with your suggestions.
     
  7. acidboy

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    I Love the idea of the chocolate sportcoat and the burnt orange. I think I will have to try that look out for myself. I'm not to crazy about the shoes though, would prefer something different but I really like it especially with your suggestions.

    with you there. the sneakers w/o laces ruins it for me, imo.
     
  8. kitonbrioni

    kitonbrioni Senior member

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    Those are both fine outfits, though they are of course outside the "Rules".
     
  9. Joel_Cairo

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    I like that first esquire outfit, but agree the shoes should be more interesting. Since the whole rest of the look is in varying shades of the blac-graphite-grey color spectrum, brown shoes will stand out big time (especially without so much as a brown belt or brown flecks in the overcoat to incorporate the shoes). In such a case, I think you have a responsibility to make the shoes something worth catching peoples' eye.
     
  10. chorse123

    chorse123 Senior member

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    How about:

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    I would wear some of the elements here, but I don't think any of the outfits work. Scarf outside jacket looks terrible, imho.
     
  11. charlief1975

    charlief1975 Well-Known Member

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    Who makes the coat on the left outfit? Looking for something like that.
     
  12. GQgeek

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    Blah to both. If you're gonna wear a nice sports jacket, why ruin it with crappy looking chinos and running shoes? I won't even get started on the one on the left...
     
  13. Edward Appleby

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    Blah to both. If you're gonna wear a nice sports jacket, why ruin it with crappy looking chinos and running shoes? I won't even get started on the one on the left...
    It's hard to say that those chinos look crappy without actually seeing how they fit. I agree with you about the shoes, though of course I don't know anyone who would run in sewn-up Chucks.
     
  14. sammy

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    I don't like the tie on the left one, and I'd prefer a different shirt on the right, perhaps a check.

    Something about these pictures, man. I'm really eager for fall this year.

    Edit - here's another one:
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    Who makes the jacket?
     
  15. chorse123

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    It's hard to say that those chinos look crappy without actually seeing how they fit.

    If you took a cross-section of chino-wearing men, how many of them would be wearing pants that fit properly? I just sort of assumed that they wouldn't fit. [​IMG]

    Plus, nine times out of ten, a jacket looks better with wool pants.

    Btw, if you want to see some really stunning combinations, take a look at the big glossy photo book Dormeuil distributes with its fabric books. There are some truely outstanding combos in there, although you'd have to be pretty sure of yourself to wear some of them.

    There's one photo of a man in a charcoal with orange windowpane jacket and matching orange velvet pants. It's obviously a novelty piece but it looks pretty damned good. My tailor is actually doing it up for a client from NYC. There are several other ensembles that are much more conservative and wearable on a daily basis but that still have a lot of kick to them.
     
  17. Edward Appleby

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    Plus, nine times out of ten, a jacket looks better with wool pants.
    I agree with you, but I think that tweed is the other 1/10 that can look just as good with chinos, particularly some worn in Bills or somesuch that have a bit of a utilitarian vibe to them.

    RE chorse: Wow, that is a big difference. I remember being suprised when I read in Esquire that the jacket was Nautica because I thought it looked very good. The question is, which picture is more representative.
     
  18. chorse123

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    I hope the Esquire picture is more representative! It could just be the macy's model is wearing it very poorly. And he looks like Kevin Federline. Shudder.

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    If you look at a cross section of men, I'd say 9/10ths are wearing their pants poorly, regardless of the type. But this is partly retailers faults. I think all pants should come unfinished...
     
  19. WestOfPCH

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    Thoughts?

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    Left outfit: I like it. I might even wear it, but it would look better on some of the guys from our ad agency.

    Right outfit: I really don't like athletic shoes with sports coats. Lose the shoes and it improves it a lot.

    First outfit looks like "I have a creative job that lets me wear jeans, but I care about looking like I care about how I look." Second outfit says "I'm a recently minted PhD and I'd like to look like I'm tenure track without looking like I completely lack imagination."
     
  20. LabelKing

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    Arnys does casualwear so much better.

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