Esquire September 2006

[rdawson808]

Originally Posted by chorse123

Thoughts?

In both cases I would wear them but only with different trousers.

1. I don't wear jeans. But I already have that coat and wear it with trousers, shirt, and tie all the time.

2. Again, I prefer a pair of dressier yet casual trousers. And I might tone down the sweater a little. But not much. Yes, a check would be better (if paired with a more subdued sweater).

As for those others that AlanC posted: I wouldn't wear any of them. The first two look too outdoorsy for me and the second two are just...ugh, those blue trousers are horrible. And I don't like red on me. Besides, that just looks off with the monochromatic base.

bob

 

[Alter]

Originally Posted by AlanC

How about:

Where are these images from? They are terrible, particularly the tucked-in sweater. That red quilted jacket is also rather...hmmm, can't think of a good word here...Gap-ish, perhaps.

 

[Get Smart]

Originally Posted by poorsod

I think that woven ties can work well with jacket and jeans. I think the flat bottom woven ties are making a come back and are casual enough to look appropriate with jeans.

good point, I think thin-ish woven ties look good with jeans as well. Your standard businessman silk tie is going to look very odd with jeans, no matter how 'dressy' a pair you've got on.

 

[AlanC]

Originally Posted by Alter

Where are these images from? They are terrible, particularly the tucked-in sweater. That red quilted jacket is also rather...hmmm, can't think of a good word here...Gap-ish, perhaps.
Hmmm. Not Gap. I'm enjoying the responses, though.

 

[LA Guy]

Originally Posted by AlanC

Hmmm. Not Gap. I'm enjoying the responses, though.

No, those photos and that style is definitely not the GAP. The garments are high quality, and the ensembles remarkably uninspired. I would guess Paul Stuart or Ben Silver, or one of those shops where old guys who wear their trousers high and ***** and moan about young people shop.

 

[Alter]

Uninspired is the right word. I didn't think the clothes came from the Gap; it is the look of these advertising images. But the Gap isn't right, they have more of a K-Mart sense of color coordination.

 

[funk_soul_brother]

Gah.

I guess I'm just not a fan of bright colours. I hate the look of that orange sweater in the second look.

The first one is not bad, though I'd only keep the jacket/shoes/jeans and change the colours of the shirt/cardigan/tie.

 

[AlanC]

Originally Posted by LA Guy

No, those photos and that style is definitely not the GAP. The garments are high quality, and the ensembles remarkably uninspired. I would guess Paul Stuart or Ben Silver, or one of those shops where old guys who wear their trousers high and ***** and moan about young people shop.
LOL

LA Guy has a good eye, but not quite right. They're from Turnbull & Asser's sites.

 

[Joel_Cairo]

edit: oops, misread a previous reply!

 

[LA Guy]

Originally Posted by AlanC

LOL

LA Guy has a good eye, but not quite right. They're from Turnbull & Asser's sites.

Yeah, figures. Luciano Barbera (not Luciano Barbera as seen through Neiman Marcus eyes) could have pulled this off. Turnbull & Asser, not so much. In the States, probably the only store I've seen do this type of thing nearly perfectly is Bergdorfs, and to a lesser degree, Louis Boston (although they often have to throw in something like a Dries van Noten cracked blue leather peacoat (oh, how I longed for that piece) to make the look work) and Wilkes Bashford (but they often put such ensembles in remarkable window displays that dazzle the eye - the ensembles inside the store are not nearly as visually arresting. Ron Herman does great riffs off this theme (say, a Margiela wrinkled Safari jacket, a crumpled blue and pink checked shirt under a really beautiful chestnut v-neck, some really slim mid-grey flannels, and Chucks), but Angelenos can do that thrown together, nothing really coherent, look the way New Yorkers can only dream of (even when a lot of the pieces are by NYC based designers!)

 

[uslexus]

Originally Posted by LA Guy

I agree with Mike C. abou the first look, but I don't like the second look either. I find the outfit undersaturated in color, and lacking in visual interest. Either they have to throw in more contrasting colors or a clashing color in there (the orange/red sweater is not striking enough to really be the accent piece), or it needs a pattern. I would for both.

Substitute a chocolate sportcoat with a windowpane pattern, and switch out the sweater with a burnt orange one, and you get a much better (and more seasonal) look, imo.

I personally don't like chinos - have worn jeans since HS, and plan to keep doing so, but I would wear a pair of surplus pants.


I Love the idea of the chocolate sportcoat and the burnt orange. I think I will have to try that look out for myself. I'm not to crazy about the shoes though, would prefer something different but I really like it especially with your suggestions.

 

[acidboy]

Originally Posted by uslexus

I Love the idea of the chocolate sportcoat and the burnt orange. I think I will have to try that look out for myself. I'm not to crazy about the shoes though, would prefer something different but I really like it especially with your suggestions.

with you there. the sneakers w/o laces ruins it for me, imo.

 

[kitonbrioni]

Those are both fine outfits, though they are of course outside the "Rules".

 

[Joel_Cairo]

I like that first esquire outfit, but agree the shoes should be more interesting. Since the whole rest of the look is in varying shades of the blac-graphite-grey color spectrum, brown shoes will stand out big time (especially without so much as a brown belt or brown flecks in the overcoat to incorporate the shoes). In such a case, I think you have a responsibility to make the shoes something worth catching peoples' eye.

 

[chorse123]

Originally Posted by AlanC

How about:

I would wear some of the elements here, but I don't think any of the outfits work. Scarf outside jacket looks terrible, imho.