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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Henry Carter

    Henry Carter Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    X-post selfie

    First morning of proper Autumn weather (down under 5 deg C)

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    Coat: Herringbone Sydney
    Shirt: Cottonwork
    Tie: Henry Carter 7 fold
    Trousers: Light grey HY flannel
    Shoes: Herring Reading
    PS: Random
     
  2. nabilmust

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    Nope.
     
  3. CHECKstar

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    I'm with you 100 percent on this PoP... Apart from it looking cleaner, I also think a placket is a quite common detail (a bit like double-cuffs now days) hence a clean front can also be a subtle point of differentiation from the pack. At the end of the day I imagine that its only going to be the clothing enthusiasts that will really notices this sort of thing.
     
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    I think first paragraph of fxh is very job and situation dependent. I agree with the vertical line but sometimes the pocket stuffed with receipts and pen can look a bit "professor"

    2nd para is something Ive always adhered to as well - rarely cufflinks, no tie bars, suede shoes and mixing texture and material for interest. I even want a sleek pair of black suede shoes for business use.[​IMG]
     
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    Me too. I'm thinking of ordering a pair from Zee's. Just plain Jane, black suede captoe oxfords. My only worry is fading.
     
  7. Robert Meredith

    Robert Meredith Well-Known Member

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    Had a great chat with Richard from Ludlow's when he was down here last week measuring people up for legal wear. Nice guy.

    Definitely have to get around a Melbourne trip soon to pop into the store. It's been about 3 years since I was up that way, so I think there's a lot of new places I'd like to check out (Double Monk for one).
     
  8. tobiasj

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    This talk of black suede shoes is madness, MADNESS I tell you
     
  9. Orchie

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    Can you only purchase HY online?

    Grant
     
  10. Gerry Nelson

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    Coincidentally, Richard has a pair of black suede chukka boots (C&J Tetburys) that look great with his suits and odd trousers.
     
  11. Henry Carter

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    The 18th of April could be a fitting time :). As I mentioned on my thread, invites will be emailed out this week week if you've bought off me before, but all of SF is invited. Al I ask is you RSVP so we can get an idea of numbers for the night.

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  12. Prince of Paisley

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    I think we may be talking slightly across purposes here - by French front I don't mean hidden buttons. This is what I understand is a "French front":

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    This is as opposed to a hidden placket, which is really most suitable for black tie IMO:

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    A French front shirt does look more refined (which - depending on your disposition and trade - may be good or bad). As Checkstar mentioned, 99% of store bought shirts - even the nicer ones - have a regular placket, so a Ffront is a little detail that sets you apart from the herd but not in a showy way. Same with rounded cuffs (whether they be double or single) as OTR shirts usually have square or diagonal-cut cuffs.

    As for pockets in shirts, I agree they are practical but when you actually use them how you're meant to (i.e. stuff them full of your cards, pens, 8c/L fuel discount dockets, bank passbooks etc.) it looks messy, or as Romp said, (nutty) professor. Wallets, card holders, and jacket / trouser pockets all do the job of holding and concealing your crap better than your shirt does..

    As for pens in pockets: not even once. They leak and it's game over for your day and the shirt.
     
  13. TheWraith

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    My understanding of French fronts was the same as fxh's.

    I dislike pockets in my shirts. Looks sleaker without IMO.
     
  14. thebrownman

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    So, this is not a French front?

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    I suppose I still have a lot to learn.
     
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    I presume you mean these Mr Nelson.

    http://shoemakersofmelbourne.com/christian-kimber-launch/
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    Cary Grant was also known for his black suede shoes.

    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/2008/09/black-suede-shoes.html
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    Jason - i am definitely in for the Trunk Show, esp. given that I have placed an order, but I will RSVP appropriately to (via email) so you can easily work out numbers. Looking forward to it.
     
  16. Prince of Paisley

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    The famous French-Italian shirt front:

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    I think the term French Front has dropped out of circulation to be honest. When I initially replied to TBM question I thought of using the term. I then went and consulted a number of mens wear books and no mention of was made in sections on shirts. Another term for hidden buttoned dress shirts is 'Fly front' and a formal or soup and fish dress shirt was known as a 'boiler' due to the washing requirements to remove starch.
     
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    I have only one dress shirt with a placket, a 'Keaton' model by RLPL. I don't really like the placket, as I tie asymmetrical knots (double four,
    Prince Albert), and have to fuss over positioning the knot so the placket doesn't show unevenly.
     
  19. tobiasj

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    I prefer plackets, in general. A French front looks asymmetical to me, as the only vertical line is off-center.
     
  20. Gerry Nelson

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