A revelation: I can't stand English suits

[lordsuperb]

where to kop a bolo?

Never saw this client wear this jacket. Don't know how he accessorizes it.

Making him a western suit from Smiths Finmeresco cloth

Made a few western style tuxedos. They may still be around Dallas somewhere.

https://www.permanentstyle.com/2017/01/huntsman-dinner-the-reader-outfits.html

 

[Despos]

What a detective you are l-superb?
Made the jacket and vest for him. He had the kilt made by Kinloch Anderson in Edinburgh. The vintage sporran is mink. He had a Sgian Dubh custom made.

My comment of not knowing how it was accessorized is about the western jacket

 

[Texasmade]

Kop a bolo from Pinto Ranch. They’re the Neiman Marcus of western wear.

 

[Despos]

Thank you for that Texas! Never know when or what a client will ask to find. Looks like a good resource.
Pinto Ranch website says they have the real deal bolos. First thought I had was the tie Colonel Sanders wears.

Side note; my father was a tailor and made a white suit for the Colonel. One of the first Sanders restaurants was in my hometown Ft Wayne, IN. It was a huge place. Not anything like the stores you may be familiar with. The colonel would stroll thru the place and chat with diners. Have vague memories of it as I was pretty young.

 

[Riva]

My Spier & Mackay otr colorful jackets fit better than most boring Italian (sloppy Formosa comes to mind) and British ones I've owned including mtm ones. So it's obvious Chinese tailoring is superior to the Europeans, only to be beaten by the Indian as only those 100Hands owners would understand. Of course it's beyond doubt that the Texan western style would prevail in the end.

 

[Galix]

German suits are way better than English or Italian ones.
Their engineering is top-notch.

 

[Texasmade]

German suits are way better than English or Italian ones.
Their engineering is top-notch.

Wait until you need to perform maintenance. You're going to be paying way more because the ridiculous German over engineering. The jacket pocket for my phone makes Porsche's cup holders look pedestrian.

 

[Easily Amused]

Between reading the contents of this thread and The Official-ish DC thread, I believe I can increase my street smarts and conversation-making ability tenfold each!

Subscribed.

P.s. I'm a proud wearer and enjoyer of both English and Italian suits

 

[BXpress]

I have fond memories of Vienna in that regard. City with plenty of good coffee bars. You can count the hours away in the right atmosphere. I found Prague a bit to crowded, although I was there at peak-season...

I visited Prague 3 times in the past 5 years. It was crowded but it didn't kill the atmosphere. Somehow i didn't mind at all.

Vienna is in my to do list. I wonder why i haven't visited it already. A Kaffeehaus, a piece of Sacher cake and the definitely the Philharmonics. But i think i won't go there before i have assembled a complete Black tie attire.

Amsterdam has turned into a far too crowded cheap theme-park

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Despos]

Think I understand the need for Black tie attire for visiting Vienna. Had a client who spent 4-6 weeks in Vienna each year during the time he referred to as "High Season", where proper black tie is a requirement. It was an annual event to come up with a new piece to add to his wardrobe

 

[lowlander]

Aren't all RTW suits actually Chinese?

Certainly not. All Canali/Ermenegildo Zegna/Brioni "RTW" are handmade in Italy. Where did you get the notion that all "RTW" suits are Chinese?

 

[smittycl]

Certainly not. All Canali/Ermenegildo Zegna/Brioni "RTW" are handmade in Italy. Where did you get the notion that all "RTW" suits are Chinese?

Not so sure about the "handmade" part. I think they are mostly machine made with some hand-finishing depending on the company and the suit grade.

 

[lowlander]

Not so sure about the "handmade" part. I think they are mostly machine made with some hand-finishing depending on the company and the suit grade.

Very well.

However, whether a machine cuts the fabric (in Italy) or whether it's done by the hands of naked Sicilian nubiles (in Italy) is irrelevant to the claim that all RTW are Chinese.

 

[crazn]

Certainly not. All Canali/Ermenegildo Zegna/Brioni "RTW" are handmade in Italy. Where did you get the notion that all "RTW" suits are Chinese?

handmade possibly, but by what skin color? assumed/presumed to be white.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/eur...little-china-authorities-crack-down-sweatshop

https://fashionista.com/2013/02/as-...what-does-it-mean-for-the-made-in-italy-label

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/20/fashion/italy-luxury-shadow-economy.html
The Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Tuscany | The ...

https://www.newyorker.com/.../the-chinese-workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tusc...

hopefully not bursting anybody's bubble...

 

[smittycl]

Very well.

However, whether a machine cuts the fabric (in Italy) or whether it's done by the hands of naked Sicilian nubiles (in Italy) is irrelevant to the claim that all RTW are Chinese.

We’ve had this argument regularly here on SF. Chinese suits are actually quite good when from a competent maker (like everything else in the world).

Somehow I doubt my Canali and Zegna suits were put together by 70 year old Italians who apprenticed since they were 12. I’m sure there is excellent supervision and quality control, though, regardless of the nationality of the employee.

I love my Italian stuff but I am hoping a Chinese suit maker stands up like Ring Jacket did and establishes themselves. Quality is quality. I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened yet with some well-known Hong tailor.