15oz whipcord pants: pleats or flat front?

[kolecho]

What is more suitable for 15oz whipcord odd pants? Pleats or flat front?

 

[Mildly Consumptive]

Originally Posted by kolecho

What is more suitable for 15oz whipcord odd pants? Pleats or flat front?

Well, it would depend on your personal preferences. I get all my trousers with a single forward pleat, regardless of the weight of the cloth.

 

[kolecho]

Some cloths are just not suitable for pleats, eg: 20oz cords or moleskin. I was wondering if 15oz whipcord might be similar.

 

[Mildly Consumptive]

Originally Posted by kolecho

Some cloths are just not suitable for pleats, eg: 20oz cords or moleskin. I was wondering if 15oz whipcord might be similar.

Well, I have a pair of single-pleated trousers made from 15.5 oz Dormeuil whipcord and haven't had any problems.

Edited to add:

What 15 oz whipcord are you looking at making the trousers out of?

 

[kolecho]

Holland & Sherry.

I have some 10oz whipcord from the same book made up. They don't hold crease as well as say frescos.

 

[Mildly Consumptive]

Originally Posted by kolecho

Holland & Sherry.

I have some 10oz whipcord from the same book made up. They don't hold crease as well as say frescos.

Strange. I don't have anything made out of fresco to compare them to, but my whipcords are pretty bulletproof. I think they've been pressed once in the last 3 years and they look like new.

 

[Concordia]

I find that frescoes are often so good at shedding creases that they tend to lose the ones I want to keep.

 

[Despos]

Originally Posted by Concordia

I find that frescoes are often so good at shedding creases that they tend to lose the ones I want to keep.

Which fresco and which weight are you referring to? Just curious. I have made it up for others but not worn fresco and would like to try one.

 

[Despos]

To the op, I have both styles and both makers, Holland & Sherry and Dormeuil.

With the pleat I do a higher rise. Lower rise for the plain front and what I call a western pocket. Very casual.

 

[Concordia]

Originally Posted by Despos

Which fresco and which weight are you referring to? Just curious. I have made it up for others but not worn fresco and would like to try one.

10oz from Holland & Sherry, and perhaps Minnis also. It's a very useful weight and sheds wrinkles very well, but I find the trouser legs get a little tubular after a while. Not a deal-breaker-- just a minor point of weirdness. To anyone adept at pressing trousers it should present no difficulty whatever.

That is less of a problem with the jacket, of course, although there are differences there between fresco and other lightweight fabrics.

 

[Despos]

I noticed and was surprised how quickly the crease would disappear on a 9 ounce minis Fresco. Wanted to know if the weight matters or a certain mill is better at Frescos.

 

[Mildly Consumptive]

Originally Posted by Despos

I noticed and was surprised how quickly the crease would disappear on a 9 ounce minis Fresco. Wanted to know if the weight matters or a certain mill is better at Frescos.

First heavyweight tweed and lightweight shetland, now lightweight fresco. Is nothing sacred? If this keeps up, I won't feel confident about getting anything in my fabric pile made up.

 

[Despos]

Originally Posted by Mildly Consumptive

First heavyweight tweed and lightweight shetland, now lightweight fresco. Is nothing sacred? If this keeps up, I won't feel confident about getting anything in my fabric pile made up.

with much knowledge comes much pain

Let me clarify, not to miss the forest for the trees.

Tailor: Breanish is difficult to work with.

Client: I like wearing them, they are light weight.

Client: My fresco sheds wrinkles but cannot discern a wrinkle from a crease.

Tailor asks: Light weight Fresco or heavy weight as well? or What is the best weight of a Fresco? No answer posted at present.

Unanimous: certain Charvet ties snag.

I am conducting research from an audience with relative experience to my occupational field.

Sorry to have gone off from the nature of this thread.

 

[Concordia]

As with most things, it comes down to choosing which problem you really want to solve.

 

[Manton]

I have 22 ounce cords with pleats. Not a problem.