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  1. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    So i noticed that when Bakers FD sale went live, shell is no longer an option on their dropdowns for leather choices. I haven’t checked with whites directly, but it seems ominous…
  2. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    So on the black flavors its less of an apples:apples thing, since the black dress is struck all the way through with the black dye, that leather won’t really patina the same way a teacore black leather like the Horween cxl horse will. That being said, for my taste, I vastly prefer the way the...
  3. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    So for a slightly different perspective on the price increase, I think it is worth considering that White’s top end of the heritage lines have always been hand-welted, where as I don’t think Wesco nor Viberg ever has been, and Nicks quietly switched their construction methods to default...
  4. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    I can't figure out if they'll look better or even worse after that natty veg tans up a bit...
  5. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    This is absolutely correct, White’s always lines the vamp whether you want them to or not, the lined/unlined choice that you make for a custom order is actually only relevant to the quarters, and even then on the “exotic” leathers (HH, shell, calf, etc.) White’s mandates lining the quarters as well.
  6. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    I've recently taken delivery of my first pair of 55 last White's with the Vibram 2060 crepe sole, and I have to say it's pretty damn comfortable. I tend to prefer thinner soles to promote flexibility in the mid/forefoot, so some of my favorite offerings from White's are a single leather sole...
  7. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    I do, based on how Ben @Stitchdown Maryam pair are looking, I like the looks of them better than how i think the Horween will look. Here’s some more pics of mine: and here’s some of Ben’s
  8. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    The creasing I’ve been seeing lately on horween horsehide is a big part of why i haven’t worn my LTT bounty hunters yet. Especially considering how much bloom I’ve been seeing on them since i took delivery, I’m betting that this pair will exhibit pretty loose grain break and I’m not sure what...
  9. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    very nice! So here are some of the pics i had promised, trying to highlight the different flavors of everything horween; one thing i would like to point out that i didn't annotate on the pics is the bloom on the natty horsehide boots where the tongue meets the vamp. I know it's hard to...
  10. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    Well, this is certainly an interesting question. First off, I have to say i was unaware horsehide of any kind was even an option ~3-4 years ago without supplying your own hides. That being said we both know there is lots of variability from hide to hide, and tannery run to tannery run. I have...
  11. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    i think if you order black, brown, or burgundy horsehide it's Horween by default, if you order natural horsehide, they might offer both, or only Maryam, as I heard they ran out of Natty Horween Horse, or maybe neither if they've also run out of Maryam, i guess. but anyways, long story short...
  12. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    What was your order date?
  13. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    can you post a pic? I hate Dainite, but am really curious to see what the Dainite toplift looks like on a Bounty Hunter...I'm assuming you have block heels?
  14. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    I haven't handled the Maryam personally, but I agree 100% with your assessment of Horween Horsehide CXL. I have put some good wear into some Mister Lou's from the original run in black Horween Horse (before they also switched to "Italian" black horsehide , ironically, probably Maryam) and to be...
  15. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    feast your eyes Natty HH, swing last, LTT, natty cxl tongues
  16. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    Anybody know if White’s will build a 300 oxford on either of the 2 packer lasts?
  17. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    Many moons ago, there was a very limited run collaboration between Rios of Mercedes and Baker's where Rios produced horsehide engineer boot uppers that Baker's lasted/welted/bottomed on the 4811 last. By the time i found out about it, they had sold out of my size, but I was able to get the pair...
  18. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    As usual Kyle is correct about the shaft size. Particularly so if we're comparing Nomads to Mister Lous. Also, Wesco has the ability, for a sizeable upcharge, to adjust the shaft diameter on custom orders. However, I find that with the Mister Lou pattern this is completely unnecessary for my...
  19. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    These are unlined brown oil tan on top (i think…) , and brown cxl on the vamps. May not be exactly what you’re looking for but hopefully it helps. I will say that maybe they selected a thinner weight hide of brown oil tan to build these as it doesn’t feel quite as thick as other boots I’ve...
  20. ThatDudeOrion

    Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

    not to be contrarian, but White's have never been cheap and they certainly aren't fast now, lol. better be good i guess!

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