The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

[Johnmdub]

If Suitsupply's double breasted shawl jackets made in their online MTO program look as good IRL as they do on the website, I'd consider them. Only downside is that you cannot get it without vents. View attachment 2182393

What fabric is that one do you know?

 

[Zerase]

I cannot remember which one I choose for this demonstration, but I think it was 403801/521 from E. Thomas in a 47% Wool, 30% Silk, 23% Linen mix at 210g/m2.

What fabric is that one do you know?

 

[Johnmdub]

Thanks all.
The SPIER and mackay one reappeared in my size, so I’ve ordered that. Pretty sure it’s exactly what I wanted - if it’s half as beautiful in real life, it should do the trick
Will update with some photos in a few weeks

 

[DorianGreen]

Tom Ford in a Saint Laurent's attire.

 

[Texasmade]

Tom Ford in a Saint Laurent's attire.

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Even Tom Ford is tired of wearing Tom Ford dinner jackets.

 

[philwongnz]

I think is his way to protest to Peter Hawkings about his comment on TF himself.

Death, Sex and Money: the Tom Ford exit interview

As he walks away from the fashion world, Tom Ford talks candidly about the empire he built, the grief he’s endured, and what he’s planning to do next.

www.gq-magazine.co.uk

 

[acconrad]

Even Tom Ford is tired of wearing Tom Ford dinner jackets.

but he does really love pointy-shouldered jackets

 

[Andy57]

but he does really love pointy-shouldered jackets

Who doesn't?

 

[Lensmaster]

Can't refute your argument, but I think that the outfit still qualifies, as "black tie" has become synonymous for evening wear, as I see.

To people who don't want to dress up anyway. To the rest of us black tie requires a black bow tie. As far as the idea that you can wear tuxedo pieces in various forms for events that are just dressy, that is true. But that is a whole other forum.

 

[Andy57]

A whole 'nuther forum...

I guess, strictly speaking, this is cocktail attire. But, black tie isn't a rigid set of rules. That would be white tie. What we call black tie is really a set of party clothes. I know full well how to do correct black tie and do so when the mood strikes me. But most of the time I just wanna have fun.

 

[ericgereghty]

A whole 'nuther forum...
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I guess, strictly speaking, this is cocktail attire. But, black tie isn't a rigid set of rules. That would be white tie. What we call black tie is really a set of party clothes. I know full well how to do correct black tie and do so when the mood strikes me. But most of the time I just wanna have fun.

I think I've said before, but would love to see that yellow DJ with off-white/cream trousers.

 

[Andy57]

Perhaps this Friday. I like the idea.

 

[Johnmdub]

Have ordered myself an ivory db shawl dinner jacket, and planning out the rest of my outfit.
What shirt style do people recommend? Thinking a plain front with studs, semi spread collar would match the vibe of the jacket, or is a marcella front a better bet?
Black cummerbund is probably not strictly necessary with the double breasted closure, but might be good to have anyway?
Getting this together for my wedding, want it to looks as good as possible

 

[ericgereghty]

Perhaps this Friday. I like the idea.

I just can't shake the bumblebee vibes with black and yellow. Unless, of course, you walk out wearing it to this...

 

[hpreston]

Have ordered myself an ivory db shawl dinner jacket, and planning out the rest of my outfit.
What shirt style do people recommend? Thinking a plain front with studs, semi spread collar would match the vibe of the jacket, or is a marcella front a better bet?
Black cummerbund is probably not strictly necessary with the double breasted closure, but might be good to have anyway?
Getting this together for my wedding, want it to looks as good as possible

Either shirt will be fine. Spread collar is suitable.

Generally speaking, on the formal to less formal scale; Shawl lapel is less formal than peak, pleated front shirt less formal than marcalla or pique front....


Re: Cummerbund, you don't need one for a DB jacket since the purpose is to cover the trouser waistband, and the jacket will do that for you.