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[spacemanvt]

My options may be limited since they are sold out in every waist size. I don’t mind a repair job if they can get a belt loop in a semi-reasonable match and have their seamstress fix it, but I am almost amazed I missed it.

RL Customer service is normally pretty good. I imagine you can get a big discount on those jeans if you want to keep them. they are basically defective

 

[heebalabala]

I know we have some fun with buttons that fall off and all, but this one really annoyed me. $459 for a pair of jeans, and they forget to put a second belt loop by the button. Worse, I sent them to Railcar for a chain stitch hem, so I’m in for $500 + on a pair of jeans that I can’t wear cause I can’t wear a belt lol. I let my SA know, and I’m fine if they just get a belt loop in and have the in-store seamstress add it, but man, this is pretty bad

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Wow, that's bananas. A couple of suggestions: If they're able to secure another loop for you, have the seamstress move the loop from the back center to the front and put the replacement in the back center so any differences from the replacement aren't as obvious. If they're not able to secure one, you could cannibalize a loop from a pair you already have that you don't wear much. And do same thing -- cannibalize from the back center loop. You might even be able to get away with not having the back center loop on the old pair -- I don't know that I would care on an old pair.

 

[Michigan Planner]

According to Ralph, the shirt and the bag are frogskin camo. Not sure what the pants on the left are. Jungle maybe?
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The bottom two are the same pattern I believe with some slight variation in the wash and pattern

They're definitely both woodland patterned, the ones on the left just have a heavier wash/fade. In the Marines, that's how we would have determined somebody was "Old Corps". 😅

 

[Michigan Planner]

My options may be limited since they are sold out in every waist size. I don’t mind a repair job if they can get a belt loop in a semi-reasonable match and have their seamstress fix it, but I am almost amazed I missed it.

Agreed that the QC on that pair was pretty bad, but couldn't you have the folks at Railcar fashion a belt loop out of some of the material that was cut off when you sent the pair into them for chain stitching?

 

[G Khan]

According to Ralph, the shirt and the bag are frogskin camo. Not sure what the pants on the left are. Jungle maybe?
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I have the shirt (1st pic). I love the pattern, but still can't figure out what the buttons on the inside are for?? I think it may be a factory second (messed up and installed buttons in the wrong place?) based on the price I paid for it from a site (around $50 new).

 

[zippyh]

I have the shirt (1st pic). I love the pattern, but still can't figure out what the buttons on the inside are for?? I think it may be a factory second (messed up and installed buttons in the wrong place?) based on the price I paid for it from a site (around $50 new).

They're all like that with the mysterious interior buttons. I got mine direct from Ralph.
Need an ex-military guy to explain what they're for.

https://www.harrods.com/en-ae/shopping/ralph-lauren-camouflage-overshirt-15175439

Edit 1: I was curious as wtf those buttons are for. I found this which has the two interior at the collar and the one near the waist. But still no idea what they're for. But apparently the two side entry chest pockets are intended for flotation devices.

Stewarts Military Antiques - - US WWII USMC P1944 HBT Utility Jacket - $125.00

- US WWII USMC P1944 HBT Utility Jacket: Original era manufacture. A very clean example in about a size 42 regular. Looks to have been laundered a time or two however the stenciled EGA remains quite clear on the left upper pocket. Original owners name is written above the pocket, with hand drawn...

stewartsmilitaryantiques.com

Edit 2: "riveted metal buttons at the collar to attach a chemical-deflecting hood"

P-44 UTILITY COAT

The P-44 UTILITY COAT is a reproduction of the P-1944 Marine Corps Utility Jacket. Rarely found in circulation due to being adopted near the end of the Pacific War, the P-44 followed up the ubiquitous P-1941 coat, both designs being used in combat and workwear. These fatigue-duty jackets were...

therealmccoys.com

Edit 3: Nvm about the chemical hood buttons. Those are actually supposed to be back of the collar. Those interior buttons are for a flap the Ralph version didn't include.

Buzz Rickson Jacket Men's Reproduction of WW2 USMC P44 HBT Utility Jacket P-44 BR15123 Olive

Buzz Rickson Jacket Men's Reproduction of WW2 USMC P44 HBT Utility Jacket P-44 BR15123 This herringbone twill jacket is made in Japan and produced by Buzz Rickson ( Buzz Ricksons Buzz Rickson's ) from Toyo Enterprises. The pattern construction of this jacket is a reproduction of iconic U.S...

rodeo-japan-pine-avenue.com

 

[gnatty8]

Agreed that the QC on that pair was pretty bad, but couldn't you have the folks at Railcar fashion a belt loop out of some of the material that was cut off when you sent the pair into them for chain stitching?

Had I noticed it prior to sending, yes, that would have been a great idea, but I just never thought to inspect the jeans closely, and wasn't until I was putting a belt on did I stop and have a wtf moment

 

[G Khan]

They're all like that with the mysterious interior buttons. I got mine direct from Ralph.
Need an ex-military guy to explain what they're for.

https://www.harrods.com/en-ae/shopping/ralph-lauren-camouflage-overshirt-15175439

Edit 1: I was curious as wtf those buttons are for. I found this which has the two interior at the collar and the one near the waist. But still no idea what they're for. But apparently the two side entry chest pockets are intended for flotation devices.

Stewarts Military Antiques - - US WWII USMC P1944 HBT Utility Jacket - $125.00

- US WWII USMC P1944 HBT Utility Jacket: Original era manufacture. A very clean example in about a size 42 regular. Looks to have been laundered a time or two however the stenciled EGA remains quite clear on the left upper pocket. Original owners name is written above the pocket, with hand drawn...

stewartsmilitaryantiques.com

Edit 2: "riveted metal buttons at the collar to attach a chemical-deflecting hood"

P-44 UTILITY COAT

The P-44 UTILITY COAT is a reproduction of the P-1944 Marine Corps Utility Jacket. Rarely found in circulation due to being adopted near the end of the Pacific War, the P-44 followed up the ubiquitous P-1941 coat, both designs being used in combat and workwear. These fatigue-duty jackets were...

therealmccoys.com

Edit 3: Nvm about the chemical hood buttons. Those are actually supposed to be back of the collar. Those interior buttons are for a flap the Ralph version didn't include.

Buzz Rickson Jacket Men's Reproduction of WW2 USMC P44 HBT Utility Jacket P-44 BR15123 Olive

Buzz Rickson Jacket Men's Reproduction of WW2 USMC P44 HBT Utility Jacket P-44 BR15123 This herringbone twill jacket is made in Japan and produced by Buzz Rickson ( Buzz Ricksons Buzz Rickson's ) from Toyo Enterprises. The pattern construction of this jacket is a reproduction of iconic U.S...

rodeo-japan-pine-avenue.com

I thought those were "map pockets" at chest level under the typical chest pockets. Like fold up your map and tuck it away to protect it from rain and briers while in the bush lol.

Re: extra buttons...I looked at the shirt and fiddled with buttoning alternative areas. None made sense. Looked at it when open and tried to figure out what they could be for. In the end guessing they were mistake or extras for a rainy day encase of loss or damage!? who knows

Interesting info...Thanks

 

[Michigan Planner]

Had I noticed it prior to sending, yes, that would have been a great idea, but I just never thought to inspect the jeans closely, and wasn't until I was putting a belt on did I stop and have a wtf moment

I get it. For some reason I figured the jeans were still out at Railcar but yeah, it makes more sense that they sent them back to you and you only discovered the missing belt loop when you went to put them on and belt them up.

 

[sterlingindigo]

I recently received (online order) the Roughout belt and it disappointingly arrived with a 1.5” gouge taken out of the suede. It’s bald in that area. Should I send it back and take my chances on another or try and handle it at the store level or is there a customer service number to call. What would you guys do? Do you think they push seconds through their online channel? Seeing a lot of QC issues lately. Interestingly, it arrived in a sealed plastic sleeve and the gouge had a darker brown substance filling it. I noticed it and rubbed my finger over it and the darker brown filler came out. Weird. Almost like an attempted repair had taken place before packaging.

 

[noretailplease]

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I recently received (online order) the Roughout belt and it disappointingly arrived with a 1.5” gouge taken out of the suede. It’s bald in that area. Should I send it back and take my chances on another or try and handle it at the store level or is there a customer service number to call. What would you guys do? Do you think they push seconds through their online channel? Seeing a lot of QC issues lately. Interestingly, it arrived in a sealed plastic sleeve and the gouge had a darker brown substance filling it. I noticed it and rubbed my finger over it and the darker brown filler came out. Weird. Almost like an attempted repair had taken place before packaging.

I would return it if you can't live with it. If you can live with it, call them and they'll give you 30-50% off to keep it.

 

[sterlingindigo]

I would return it if you can't live with it. If you can live with it, call them and they'll give you 30-50% off to keep it.

Called them. No offers were made. They also said the retail stores might not accept an exchange from online!

 

[spacemanvt]

Called them. No offers were made. They also said the retail stores might not accept an exchange from online!

No chance of that. You should call again and complain more

 

[sterlingindigo]

No chance of that. You should call again and complain more

No chance of what?

 

[spacemanvt]

No chance of what?

Not accepting an exchange in store