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I think they should make one massive rule chage before every super bowl that only applies to this one game. For example, this year they could make it legal to make as many forward passes as you want, or penalties will only be called in the 2 and 4 quarters. Giving teams only 2 weeks to prepare for the unknown change would make the entire run up for more fascinating.
 

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I think they should make one massive rule chage before every super bowl that only applies to this one game. For example, this year they could make it legal to make as many forward passes as you want, or penalties will only be called in the 2 and 4 quarters. Giving teams only 2 weeks to prepare for the unknown change would make the entire run up for more fascinating.

Rule #6,312, all active players must have been drafted in the first two rounds of the draft.
 

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I cannot remember a time I was as excited to watch a football game as I was last night. Not the outcome I was hoping for but, man, what a great season! I'm looking forward to what the Lions can do next year!
 

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I cannot remember a time I was as excited to watch a football game as I was last night. Not the outcome I was hoping for but, man, what a great season! I'm looking forward to what the Lions can do next year!
Same...
I'm not going to fault Campbell for being the aggressive guy that got them there in the first place.
If Josh Reynolds catches the 4th down pass that hit both of his hands, the game is in all likelihood over.

Go Wings
 

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Same...
I'm not going to fault Campbell for being the aggressive guy that got them there in the first place.
If Josh Reynolds catches the 4th down pass that hit both of his hands, the game is in all likelihood over.

Go Wings

I liked his aggressive play calling during the season. I just don't think it is appropriate in the situation last night. In a playoff game on the road, they had the chance to go up 3 scores at the half, take it. Then they had the chance to tie it, take it.

I'm not a big believer in momentum in sports because the data doesn't really support it, but when you drive down to inside the 10 and get stopped, it gets the crowd back in the game and is a blow to morale.
 

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I liked his aggressive play calling during the season. I just don't think it is appropriate in the situation last night. In a playoff game on the road, they had the chance to go up 3 scores at the half, take it. Then they had the chance to tie it, take it.

I'm not a big believer in momentum in sports because the data doesn't really support it, but when you drive down to inside the 10 and get stopped, it gets the crowd back in the game and is a blow to morale.
On the ross tucker nfl podcast he was talking about momentum today. He said you can't find a player or coach who doesn't believe in it. I think there's something to that of the whole reason sports is great is the unpredictability. And while i think analytics are horrifically underused in football i think there is the human element that ultimately overrides everything. Otherwise coaches would be robots or AI or whatever. There has to be some recognition of our left tackle is getting smoked all week in practice even though xyz is the right thing to do he wont help us execute or that we have to maintain morale now etc.

Does that make sense?
 

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On the ross tucker nfl podcast he was talking about momentum today. He said you can't find a player or coach who doesn't believe in it. I think there's something to that of the whole reason sports is great is the unpredictability. And while i think analytics are horrifically underused in football i think there is the human element that ultimately overrides everything. Otherwise coaches would be robots or AI or whatever. There has to be some recognition of our left tackle is getting smoked all week in practice even though xyz is the right thing to do he wont help us execute or that we have to maintain morale now etc.

Does that make sense?

It does; however, we, as people, don't like the idea that algorithms are better at decision making than humans. Simple algorithms are better than humans (marginally, but statistically significantly) in all kinds of fields, but because they aren't near certain, we don't feel comfortable trusting them because our minds don't get the comfort of certainty. So in something as uncertain as a sports event, going with a coach's gut feels better. You don't get to run the drive 100 times to take advantage of the 5% probability improvement.

Plus, we're very good at ex post facto rationalization, so we can always tell a great story on why it didn't or didn't work after the fact.
 

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If a gsu player scores your team wins automatically

God thats stupid. Why would they do something stupid like that when they can do something like putting a circle in the corner of the endzone that if you catch a touchdown in you get 20 points?
 

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I liked his aggressive play calling during the season. I just don't think it is appropriate in the situation last night. In a playoff game on the road, they had the chance to go up 3 scores at the half, take it. Then they had the chance to tie it, take it.

I'm not a big believer in momentum in sports because the data doesn't really support it, but when you drive down to inside the 10 and get stopped, it gets the crowd back in the game and is a blow to morale.
Dan knows, as I do, that the Lions don't score any points in 3rd quarters. It's the last gasp of the Bobby Layne curse.
Getting the 7 points there was crucial.
 

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It does; however, we, as people, don't like the idea that algorithms are better at decision making than humans. Simple algorithms are better than humans (marginally, but statistically significantly) in all kinds of fields, but because they aren't near certain, we don't feel comfortable trusting them because our minds don't get the comfort of certainty. So in something as uncertain as a sports event, going with a coach's gut feels better. You don't get to run the drive 100 times to take advantage of the 5% probability improvement.

Plus, we're very good at ex post facto rationalization, so we can always tell a great story on why it didn't or didn't work after the fact.
I dont think a coach knows better than algorithms i just think we cant take out the human factor. I mean we forget these are people doing a job. Think about what happens your coworkers perform when something inconsequential like a perceived tone in an email sets them off. People aren't inputs and outputs. There's an art to getting us to do what others want.
 

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