Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

[Dewi]



Couple things about linen:

-It looks really great. The best summer look, IMO.

-You definitely should not be ironing it after every wear. If you can't bear to be seen in wrinkles, you are not ready for linen.

-It's cooling properties are, at least for me, over-stated. I believe that thread for thread linen wears cooler than anything else. E.g., my linen and line-cotton shirts wear much cooler than pure cotton. However, as a suiting or jacketing, linen needs to be woven in a substantial weight, 10 to 14 ounces is typical, and at that weight I find it wears warm. So, for me, the coolest wearing suits I have are the very light Minnis frescos, Wodehouse Summer Comfort (which is even lighter), and 7 ounce cotton.

This 7 ounce cotton sounds really nice. Any recommendations on where to look? I honestly know next to nothing about fabric houses, and even less when it comes to cotton. It's something that I really want to educate myself more on, generally speaking.

 

[ThinkDerm]

what do people think of the following Smiths Woolen hopsack options for a suit from Steed:

 

[aportnoy]



what do people think of the following Smiths Woolen hopsack options for a suit from Steed:

Love the bottom one, have something just like it.

 

[Dewi]



what do people think of the following Smiths Woolen hopsack options for a suit from Steed:

I very much like the bottom one, the lighter coloured of the three.

 

[ThinkDerm]



Love the bottom one, have something just like it.

light blue hopsack... do you have a photo of it made up as a suit?

 

[Eustace Tilley]

Is that Botany?

 

[ThinkDerm]

smiths woolens

 

[bboysdontcryy]

Smith Woollens Botany.

 

[ThinkDerm]



Smith Woollens Botany.

what's the botany line?

 

[Slickman]

Whnay posted some smiths steadfast hopsacks that really looked great, I believe it is substantially heavier, but should PM him to hear what he has to say about it. It could just be me, but I have 2 navy hopsack jackets, one in a winter heavyweight 17oz+ and one in a 10oz fresco (not a hopsack but functionally the same), I feel like a 13oz is neither here nor there.

 

[Eustace Tilley]

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Steadfast is 14oz., so, from a functional perspective, is similar to Botany. Not sure why you believe a 13oz. is 'neither here nor there'? - imo 11-13oz. cloths are often the most versatile. 17oz. is, frankly, a bit of a iGent affection.

 

[Eustace Tilley]

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Thanks

 

[Slickman]

I guess my minds been warped, but 13oz would be too hot for summer, so I'd say if one can, a navy fresco fills that void in the summer months. I thought steadfast was heavier, guess i was wrong on that count.

 

[NOBD]



This 7 ounce cotton sounds really nice. Any recommendations on where to look? I honestly know next to nothing about fabric houses, and even less when it comes to cotton. It's something that I really want to educate myself more on, generally speaking.

You could look into Drapers:

 

[johanm]



what do people think of the following Smiths Woolen hopsack options for a suit from Steed:

I have a suit in 3912. It's a beautiful shade of navy, very "blue" in person when made up, and even "bright" in some lights. I would hesitate to order a lighter shade than that as I think it would substantially limit the versatility.

Also, these are NOT hopsacks. They are plain weaves with a smooth finish. I don't believe there are any true basketweaves in the Botany line, though Steadfast has some great ones.