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Question regarding Allen Edmonds sizing?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by k4lnamja, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. k4lnamja

    k4lnamja Well-Known Member

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    I've searched through the forum but I've an odd question. I went to Nordstroms just to try on some AE's to find out what my size is. Well, I tried on a 9.5 D and it was tight on the sides. However, when the sales associate measured my foot, he said my foot size was a 8.5 D.

    I'm confused. Why would a 9.5D AE Park Avenue be "tight" although my "proper" size is a 8.5D?

    Can anyone explain please b/c I'd like to purchase some AE's but would like to know my exact size before hand?

    Cheers
     
  2. hobo_ken

    hobo_ken Well-Known Member

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    You can't compare sizes amongst different manufacturers.

    Furthermore, you may wear a 9 or 9.5 in AEs depending on which last was used.
     
  3. Claus

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    However, when the sales associate measured my foot, he said my foot size was a 8.5 D.

    On the Brannock devise, I suppose.

    Did you stand upright while your measurements were taken?
     
  4. runner-guy

    runner-guy Well-Known Member

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    Not sure why there was such a difference for you. Maybe he measured you wrong? I own two pairs of the AE Van Ness, which uses the Executive Last-2, and I've found them pretty true to size.
     
  5. glum

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    the last used to make the park avenue (as well as other popular allen edmond shoes) is a narrow last. a search will reveal that many forum members, includeing me, go one size wider for this last.
     
  6. ns7

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    the last used to make the park avenue (as well as other popular allen edmond shoes) is a narrow last. a search will reveal that many forum members, includeing me, go one size wider for this last.

    Agreed, you may have to go down in size and go up in width. Also, I think the instep might be low on the PA last so you might want to look into that.
     
  7. k4lnamja

    k4lnamja Well-Known Member

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    On the Brannock devise, I suppose.

    Did you stand upright while your measurements were taken?


    Yes, on the Brannock and I was standing up.
     
  8. k4lnamja

    k4lnamja Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, you may have to go down in size and go up in width. Also, I think the instep might be low on the PA last so you might want to look into that.

    Go down in size but up in width? Interesting. I was thinking stay at 9.5 but up to E width. I'm thinking he measured me wrong although I did see the #'s on the device.

    Thanks again everyone.
     
  9. Shoe City Thinker

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    the last used to make the park avenue (as well as other popular allen edmond shoes) is a narrow last. a search will reveal that many forum members, includeing me, go one size wider for this last.

    I just bought a pair of Strands ( [​IMG] ) which are built on the #5 last. The same last as the Park Ave. The Brannock device has me at 10.5 E but the Strands are super comfy in size 10.5 D. I own a pair of the Bryon in 10.5 D and they're a bit on the narrow side (last #4).
     
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    Answer: lasts.
     
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  12. Claus

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    Yes, on the Brannock and I was standing up.

    Thanks! [​IMG]

    If you were sitting, this would have explained quite a bit on the difference. But so...

    In my opinion, if a shoes doesn't fit in the measured size (provided it's been taken properly), the last simply isn't made for your feet. If one tries to compensate such a "misfit" by going up in size (ie. shoe lenght), the consequences seem to be higher strain on the joints of your feet and legs, faster abrasion of the tip of the sole, and deeper creases.

    If you still want the PA, try a few other sizes before you buy. According to your remarks, (US) 9.0 EE or EEE, or maybe a (US) 8.5 EEE would be worth a try.

    Hope this helps.
     
  13. ns7

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    Go down in size but up in width? Interesting. I was thinking stay at 9.5 but up to E width. I'm thinking he measured me wrong although I did see the #'s on the device.

    Thanks again everyone.


    It is a long but skinny last. Just make sure it feels right before you purchase. Or purchase from Nordstrom, break them in at home, and return them if they feel wrong.
     
  14. k4lnamja

    k4lnamja Well-Known Member

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    Thanks! [​IMG]

    If you were sitting, this would have explained quite a bit on the difference. But so...

    In my opinion, if a shoes doesn't fit in the measured size (provided it's been taken properly), the last simply isn't made for your feet. If one tries to compensate such a "misfit" by going up in size (ie. shoe lenght), the consequences seem to be higher strain on the joints of your feet and legs, faster abrasion of the tip of the sole, and deeper creases.

    If you still want the PA, try a few other sizes before you buy. According to your remarks, (US) 9.0 EE or EEE, or maybe a (US) 8.5 EEE would be worth a try.

    Hope this helps.



    Thanks for the helpful info, especially regarding the strain on the joints. I never thought about that. Maybe the Park's and 5th's arent for me? =/

    I do love the look of those shoes. I guess I need to find the proper last for me.
     
  15. JLibourel

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    I just bought a pair of Strands ( [​IMG] ) which are built on the #5 last. The same last as the Park Ave. The Brannock device has me at 10.5 E but the Strands are super comfy in size 10.5 D. I own a pair of the Bryon in 10.5 D and they're a bit on the narrow side (last #4).

    This makes no sense: The #4 last is a wider last than the #5. By all logic, the Strands should be tighter than the Byrons in the same size. However, they're your feet, and so I won't dispute your account.

    Just goes to show that when you are contemplating buying a pair of shoes, it is far, far better to try on the actual pair you are thinking of buying rather than trying to extrapolate your size in an effort to find a good e-bargain.
     

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