Making clothes fit better by exercising.

[blackbowtie]

I just found out that tadger is actually a word. One always learns new things on SF.

 

[jedwards]

I'm assuming the OP is genuine in his intent and I have to be honest, I do find some truth in what he is saying.

Nice clothes are a great way to look better but I still feel a guy in a polyester Topman suit is gonna look better than a morbidly obese banker in a rubinacci or anderson sheppard. I am using satire a little of course, but the point remains...

I've never spent as much as I do on tailoring as I do in the last 2 years, earlier this year, my waist went up several inches (ironically, I was overeating from the gym routine). From normal waist to a still normal waist (by british standards anyway) but it just doesn't look as good especially when one of my long time tailors told me my new waist size! So I consciously started eating less.

Anyway, I realised, why spend all those money in tailoring and have a crap body?

I don't think the op was actually saying we need to look like the cover of men's health mag - but yeah, tailoring looks better on an in shape guy. (For in shape, I mean, not overweight. I don't care about having a six pack etc)

 

[unbelragazzo]

The OP's abhorrent gay-shaming and humblebragging aside, I don't think there's necessarily a contradiction inherent in caring about clothes but not caring much about your personal appearance. Some people like clothes as things in and of themselves, not just as instruments to redound to their own attractiveness. For others their clothes contributes to their persona, even if it doesn't make them sexually attractive. Winston Churchill, for instance, was no matinee idol, regardless of what he was wearing. But at the same time, his clothes contributed to who he was.

 

[OzzyJones]

Now this is the conversation I hoped for!
I think exercising can bring its own problems with fit. Take someone who does heavy lifting, particularly squats; they're likely to have major issues with trousers especially if they're otherwise trim; 32-34 waist and 25-26 inch thighs for instance

 

[RDiaz]

If people exercised more, they would perhaps look more attractive, not necessarily better. A lot of people here enjoy the beauty of tailored clothes themselves. And a better body does not make clothes look better, it makes the person look better.

 

[OzzyJones]

I always thought people exercised to look better out of their clothes

 

[FlyingMonkey]

Good clothing should fit and flatter. It's easier and cheaper to find clothes that fit and flatter if you have a body shape that aligns with current manufacturing norms and social expectations. But that's not the same as being fit at all. And you can be fit in different ways that cause just as many problems in getting clothes to fit and flatter.

 

[7_rocket]

You guys are getting sensitive over this. While over on the WIWT it's all bromance and nut sucking eachother.

on another note, I stopped working out ever since I got into a relationship. As long as I"m not Fat or have a belly I'm ok. Yep I said it.

 

[jedwards]



If people exercised more, they would perhaps look more attractive, not necessarily better. A lot of people here enjoy the beauty of tailored clothes themselves. And a better body does not make clothes look better, it makes the person look better.

Forgive me, I don't understand the split you are making.

As we are on a menswear forum, let's talk about the average western diet eating male over 40. Actually make that 25.

Serious moobs and serious pot belly.

By any measure, self confidence, attractiveness etc, he is gonna look better without those.
Look at the Japanese men on this website who are more mature but still in good shape and the clothes look better for it.. They are still slim, so we are not taking about a pumped up physique here.

You see it in the omast documentary IIRC - one of the tailors relates a story about him or another tailor he knows that doesn't like making clothes for very large men, in case that customer goes around telling everyone in Italy who his tailor is. That particular tailor did not feel his clothes look good on large men and therefore shys alway from accepting them as clients.

People are conflating "in shape" with "men's health cover model" - but i don't think that is what the op was saying....

I would venture you cant even really see spalla camicia on a guy with a doughy build if you think about it - so WHAT would be the point in spending thousands of euros on a spallacamicia neopolitan tailor?

 

[hellstorm2004]

I am currently going through the same thing, I am exercising to fit my clothes I have a at least 50 t-shirts, out of them at least 45 dont fit me anymore! Exercising to get back in shape. I don't like the way i look in the mirror. But my job always comes in the way of daily gym routine.

 

[Wayward]

On a somewhat related note, I've also noticed that people in great clothes are offset by poor posture. Sure tailoring could fix that, but if the wearer stopped slouching, it'd be even better. However, like exercise, posture takes work, patience and dedication. I could go on about the benefits of it, but at the end of the day people have their own priorities in life, and it's hard to nanny someone into something that's for their own good.

 

[RDiaz]

Forgive me, I don't understand the split you are making.

As we are on a menswear forum, let's talk about the average western diet eating male over 40. Actually make that 25.

Serious moobs and serious pot belly.

By any measure, self confidence, attractiveness etc, he is gonna look better without those.
Look at the Japanese men on this website who are more mature but still in good shape and the clothes look better for it.. They are still slim, so we are not taking about a pumped up physique here.

You see it in the omast documentary IIRC - one of the tailors relates a story about him or another tailor he knows that doesn't like making clothes for very large men, in case that customer goes around telling everyone in Italy who his tailor is. That particular tailor did not feel his clothes look good on large men and therefore shys alway from accepting them as clients.

People are conflating "in shape" with "men's health cover model" - but i don't think that is what the op was saying....

I would venture you cant even really see spalla camicia on a guy with a doughy build if you think about it - so WHAT would be the point in spending thousands of euros on a spallacamicia neopolitan tailor?

I think we agree in that morbid obesity doesn't really make most clothes look good, but that's far from the average WAYWRN poster. And with the right tailoring, even a doughy build can carry beautiful clothes - the man inside just won't look attractive or athletic, but the clothes will look great. Winston Churchill is a good example.

 

[vida]



Good clothing should fit and flatter. It's easier and cheaper to find clothes that fit and flatter if you have a body shape that aligns with current manufacturing norms and social expectations. But that's not the same as being fit at all. And you can be fit in different ways that cause just as many problems in getting clothes to fit and flatter.

Exactly. I'm a runner and I have a 29 inch waist/36r/...very difficult to find good fitting clothes. Most rtw is cut for a guy with a 5 or 6 inch drop. And no, I'm not 26, i'm in my late 40's. BUT I do agree that people (women too) who are out of shape have certain challenges wearing tailored clothes.

 

[skeen7908]

Agree with the OP. Lots of money being spent by people who still look awful.

These people are obviously vain, as evidenced by the amount of time/money/concern they spend on their clothing. I can't understand why that vanity is not also expressed in concern for their physique.

 

[unbelragazzo]

I imagine some love embodying the rich guy stereotype. "Skinny cat" is not a thing.