How to get food stamps?

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And ... are you suggesting we spend eternity with a NY Escort ... or perhaps a NY Asian Escort ... or that only NY Asian Escorts get to choose where they spend eternity?

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[83glt]

I forgot that the OP said he's only worked 4 years. If that's true, and he doesn't have 10 years worth of work credits, he'd be stuck on SSI benefits only. And that only comes to about $600 and change a month. So with foodstamps of $200 a month, he'd have to somehow survive on a little more than 1.5 times the value of his $5000 watch - for A YEAR.

Depending on where he lives, he wouldn't qualify for public housing or section 8 right away. In NYC for example, assuming he's a single man with no kids, he could wait a decade or more. So, he'll either have to find an apartment for less than $500 a month (leaving him with $100 and change a month for clothes, "entertainment" and miscellaneous), or he could take advantage of that other free benefit - the homeless shelter. And if you haven't been to a homeless shelter, you don't know what you're missing. You know that dirty terribly smelly homeless guy on the subway that clears the car with his stench when he stumbles onto the train mumbling and pissing himself? Well, you guessed it, a homeless shelter is full of those guys. But hey, it's free!

He could also try to have some kids. If he has some kids then he can get more foodstamps for his "family". He could also get them on public assistance. So maybe he'd get an extra $150 a month to buy his kids clothes and maybe a used toy. He'll also probably get a shelter allowance that will help him afford a higher rent of maybe up to $750 a month (again, assuming of course he's qualified for SSI, which can take up to a year or more to start receiving). That will probably help him move from a one-bedroom rat and cockroach and bed bug infested **** hole coated in lead paint with no sinks and intermittent plumbing and broken appliances to a luxurious two-bedroom rat and cockroach and bed bug infested **** hole coated in lead paint with no sinks and intermittent plumbing and broken appliances. So it'll really be a step up!

But let's not forget, OP's been stolen from to pay for all this, so he's just getting his money back! He invested in this when he was being robbed of all of that hard-earned money. So this is all his due. We shouldn't be giving OP a hard time for wanting to collect on what was taken from him. We should encourage him to go for it and live the glamorous trouble-free life that so many free-loaders enjoy at our expense. Really, he'd be a sucker not to.

So what's it going to be OP? You gonna keep being a sucker like the rest of us? Slaving away to subsidize society's free-loaders? Or are you going to step up and be a man, put your foodstamps where your mouth is and take the plunge into life on the dole?

You talk of social experiments. Here's one for you... Why don't you take a year, just ONE year, to drop out of school, quit work, and experience life as it's lived by millions of Americans living in SEVERE poverty. Most of these people live like this their entire lives. You just have to do it for a year. Apply for these benefits and see how it is to live on $8000 or less a year (if you don't qualify for SSI, you can expect half of that or even less). I'd love to see you try. I think we all would. I bet you wouldn't last a week. Start with nothing. No money, no food, nowhere to stay. Nothing. Just the shirt on your back. Go into a homeless shelter and stay there for a few months while your food stamps, public assistance, and whatever other "benefits" get processed.... Most of it will be done for you, free of charge of course.

I think if you can last a year, you should win a prize. Does anyone have any suggestions on a prize for OP? What if we all chip in?

 

[CunningSmeagol]

Originally Posted by 83glt

I forgot that the OP said he's only worked 4 years. If that's true, and he doesn't have 10 years worth of work credits, he'd be stuck on SSI benefits only. And that only comes to about $600 and change a month. So with foodstamps of $200 a month, he'd have to somehow survive on a little more than 1.5 times the value of his $5000 watch - for A YEAR.

Depending on where he lives, he wouldn't qualify for public housing or section 8 right away. In NYC for example, assuming he's a single man with no kids, he could wait a decade or more. So, he'll either have to find an apartment for less than $500 a month (leaving him with $100 and change a month for clothes, "entertainment" and miscellaneous), or he could take advantage of that other free benefit - the homeless shelter. And if you haven't been to a homeless shelter, you don't know what you're missing. You know that dirty terribly smelly homeless guy on the subway that clears the car with his stench when he stumbles onto the train mumbling and pissing himself? Well, you guessed it, a homeless shelter is full of those guys. But hey, it's free!

He could also try to have some kids. If he has some kids then he can get more foodstamps for his "family". He could also get them on public assistance. So maybe he'd get an extra $150 a month to buy his kids clothes and maybe a used toy. He'll also probably get a shelter allowance that will help him afford a higher rent of maybe up to $750 a month (again, assuming of course he's qualified for SSI, which can take up to a year or more to start receiving). That will probably help him move from a one-bedroom rat and cockroach and bed bug infested **** hole coated in lead paint with no sinks and intermittent plumbing and broken appliances to a luxurious two-bedroom rat and cockroach and bed bug infested **** hole coated in lead paint with no sinks and intermittent plumbing and broken appliances. So it'll really be a step up!

But let's not forget, OP's been stolen from to pay for all this, so he's just getting his money back! He invested in this when he was being robbed of all of that hard-earned money. So this is all his due. We shouldn't be giving OP a hard time for wanting to collect on what was taken from him. We should encourage him to go for it and live the glamorous trouble-free life that so many free-loaders enjoy at our expense. Really, he'd be a sucker not to.

So what's it going to be OP? You gonna keep being a sucker like the rest of us? Slaving away to subsidize society's free-loaders? Or are you going to step up and be a man, put your foodstamps where your mouth is and take the plunge into life on the dole?

You talk of social experiments. Here's one for you... Why don't you take a year, just ONE year, to drop out of school, quit work, and experience life as it's lived by millions of Americans living in SEVERE poverty. Most of these people live like this their entire lives. You just have to do it for a year. Apply for these benefits and see how it is to live on $8000 or less a year (if you don't qualify for SSI, you can expect half of that or even less). I'd love to see you try. I think we all would. I bet you wouldn't last a week. Start with nothing. No money, no food, nowhere to stay. Nothing. Just the shirt on your back. Go into a homeless shelter and stay there for a few months while your food stamps, public assistance, and whatever other "benefits" get processed.... Most of it will be done for you, free of charge of course.

I think if you can last a year, you should win a prize. Does anyone have any suggestions on a prize for OP? What if we all chip in?

Why would I want to do that?? Sounds horrible.

 

[Mr. White]

Originally Posted by 83glt

I forgot that the OP said he's only worked 4 years. If that's true, and he doesn't have 10 years worth of work credits, he'd be stuck on SSI benefits only. And that only comes to about $600 and change a month. So with foodstamps of $200 a month, he'd have to somehow survive on a little more than 1.5 times the value of his $5000 watch - for A YEAR. Depending on where he lives, he wouldn't qualify for public housing or section 8 right away. In NYC for example, assuming he's a single man with no kids, he could wait a decade or more. So, he'll either have to find an apartment for less than $500 a month (leaving him with $100 and change a month for clothes, "entertainment" and miscellaneous), or he could take advantage of that other free benefit - the homeless shelter. And if you haven't been to a homeless shelter, you don't know what you're missing. You know that dirty terribly smelly homeless guy on the subway that clears the car with his stench when he stumbles onto the train mumbling and pissing himself? Well, you guessed it, a homeless shelter is full of those guys. But hey, it's free! He could also try to have some kids. If he has some kids then he can get more foodstamps for his "family". He could also get them on public assistance. So maybe he'd get an extra $150 a month to buy his kids clothes and maybe a used toy. He'll also probably get a shelter allowance that will help him afford a higher rent of maybe up to $750 a month (again, assuming of course he's qualified for SSI, which can take up to a year or more to start receiving). That will probably help him move from a one-bedroom rat and cockroach and bed bug infested **** hole coated in lead paint with no sinks and intermittent plumbing and broken appliances to a luxurious two-bedroom rat and cockroach and bed bug infested **** hole coated in lead paint with no sinks and intermittent plumbing and broken appliances. So it'll really be a step up! But let's not forget, OP's been stolen from to pay for all this, so he's just getting his money back! He invested in this when he was being robbed of all of that hard-earned money. So this is all his due. We shouldn't be giving OP a hard time for wanting to collect on what was taken from him. We should encourage him to go for it and live the glamorous trouble-free life that so many free-loaders enjoy at our expense. Really, he'd be a sucker not to. So what's it going to be OP? You gonna keep being a sucker like the rest of us? Slaving away to subsidize society's free-loaders? Or are you going to step up and be a man, put your foodstamps where your mouth is and take the plunge into life on the dole? You talk of social experiments. Here's one for you... Why don't you take a year, just ONE year, to drop out of school, quit work, and experience life as it's lived by millions of Americans living in SEVERE poverty. Most of these people live like this their entire lives. You just have to do it for a year. Apply for these benefits and see how it is to live on $8000 or less a year (if you don't qualify for SSI, you can expect half of that or even less). I'd love to see you try. I think we all would. I bet you wouldn't last a week. Start with nothing. No money, no food, nowhere to stay. Nothing. Just the shirt on your back. Go into a homeless shelter and stay there for a few months while your food stamps, public assistance, and whatever other "benefits" get processed.... Most of it will be done for you, free of charge of course. I think if you can last a year, you should win a prize. Does anyone have any suggestions on a prize for OP? What if we all chip in?
No. Did you ever see the movie Soul Man? He never learned anything about what it is like to be black because he knew that, if he didn't like it, he could always go back. However, if he steps up to the challenge, I suggest a neon green T-shirt with fat black letters saying NO WORRY.

 

[83glt]

Originally Posted by Mr. White

However, if he steps up to the challenge, I suggest a neon green T-shirt with fat black letters saying NO WORRY.

I like the prize.

Originally Posted by CunningSmeagol

Why would I want to do that?? Sounds horrible.

Sounds horrible? Ya, it sure does. But that's how literally millions of Americans on food stamps live their lives every day, many for their entire lives. Yet you see humor in it with your asinine "thought" experiment, requesting direction on how to go about applying for food stamps while wearing your $5000 watch. You're an asshole quite frankly. I suggest that you attempt to live like this for a year so that you might learn what living in poverty is really all about, and that you won't be so ignorant as to make fun of the situation that really is a horrible scourge in this society that is the cause of so many very very serious problems. But maybe I give you too much credit, maybe you wouldn't learn a thing. Do us a favor though, and try it. Just try it. If a year sounds like too much, try a month, a week, a day, an hour. THAT would be an experiment worth trying.

 

[Piobaire]

Great thread; would read again.

 

[edmorel]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

Great thread; would read again.

why????

 

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by edmorel

why????

I find some of the responses interesting. Of particular interest (to me) is how intent seems to far outweigh the act for many.

 

[83glt]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

I find some of the responses interesting. Of particular interest (to me) is how intent seems to far outweigh the act for many.
I wouldn't say it outweighs... But I think sometimes just thinking something stupid warrants disdain, regardless of whether the act actually follows. In fact, it happens here all the time.

 

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by 83glt

I wouldn't say it outweighs... But I think sometimes just thinking something stupid warrants disdain, regardless of whether the act actually follows. In fact, it happens here all the time.

YMMV, but the intent of the OP sure seems to be the topic, not the deed of collecting food stamps. I mean, we've had people here talk about purchasing stamps on the gray market to fund the drug habits of recipients, and no one seemed to raise an eyebrow. No, IMO, it is obvious it's not food stamps themselves, or acquiring them at a discount from drug addicts, it's the way the OP planned to get them.

 

[CunningSmeagol]

Originally Posted by 83glt

Sounds horrible? Ya, it sure does. But that's how literally millions of Americans on food stamps live their lives every day, many for their entire lives. Yet you see humor in it with your asinine "thought" experiment, requesting direction on how to go about applying for food stamps while wearing your $5000 watch. You're an asshole quite frankly. I suggest that you attempt to live like this for a year so that you might learn what living in poverty is really all about, and that you won't be so ignorant as to make fun of the situation that really is a horrible scourge in this society that is the cause of so many very very serious problems. But maybe I give you too much credit, maybe you wouldn't learn a thing. Do us a favor though, and try it. Just try it. If a year sounds like too much, try a month, a week, a day, an hour. THAT would be an experiment worth trying.

Why should they get food stamps if they don't pay taxes? I also don't have a $5k watch. But it is nice, and when I thought I lost it, it was horrible.

 

[Mr. White]

Originally Posted by CunningSmeagol

Why should they get food stamps if they don't pay taxes?

You mean, the poor? For the same reason they should get charity. Those whose absolute minimum survival needs aren't met, and who are strong enough to do so, take what they need by force. When welfare/charity is insufficient, they organize to takeover land and build shacks. They fight off police and rent-a-cops. This happens in Mexico all the time. Why do you think the Colombian FLN [Palestinian PLO, etc.] has such an easy time recruiting poor kids?

Besides, the richest of the rich pay the least tax in comparison with their assets and incomes. They get all kinds of free expense-account meals at the best restaurants--which are also tax writeoffs.

 

[83glt]

Originally Posted by CunningSmeagol

Why should they get food stamps if they don't pay taxes? I also don't have a $5k watch. But it is nice, and when I thought I lost it, it was horrible.


I'm sure I don't need to explain that the reference to your watch wasn't necessarily literal.

As for why people should get food stamps if they don't pay taxes, again, the best answer to that question would be for you to go experience poverty yourself. If you seriously are genuinely perplexed by this, which I don't think you are, then no answer of mine or anyone else's is going to clear it up for you. Seriously, go see for yourself how many of these people live. I think you'll find your answer.

That said, and to be fair, I have seen people using their Food Stamps "Benefits" card in line at the supermarket and maybe it was the exact same type of prejudice and ignorance affecting the OP that overtook me at the time. I thought: "Why the **** does she need food stamps?" I was a little pissed off to think that I was basically buying that woman's groceries. Obviously that's a very simplistic way of looking at it, but I admit that's how I felt in the moment. And there's a real problem with immigrants I might add, legal immigrants of course, who come to the US because of family sponsorship or whatever, not speaking the language, and for whatever reason not being able or willing to work. Often the standard of living they can achieve with food stamps and other benefits is much higher than they had back home. So they don't even have to do anything to have a better life here. And we're all paying for it.

But, and it's a big but, that is the minority and a very small one. And unless the government eliminates these benefit programs all together, there will always be some level of fraud or abuse of the system. The reality is, however, that the vast majority of people on these programs are in desperate need and have legitimate claims.

So if the OP's mystification was focused on the fraudsters, I would understand and agree. But it's quite clear that his ignorance has led to a sweeping generalization of benefits recipients that is unfair and unjustified.

 

[CunningSmeagol]

Originally Posted by Mr. White

You mean, the poor? For the same reason they should get charity. Those whose absolute minimum survival needs aren't met, and who are strong enough to do so, take what they need by force. When welfare/charity is insufficient, they organize to takeover land and build shacks. They fight off police and rent-a-cops. This happens in Mexico all the time. Why do you think the Colombian FLN [Palestinian PLO, etc.] has such an easy time recruiting poor kids?

Besides, the richest of the rich pay the least tax in comparison with their assets and incomes. They get all kinds of free expense-account meals at the best restaurants--which are also tax writeoffs.

We could just build more jails. It would cost about the same, though at least we wouldn't be rewarding people for being generally useless. But I don't share your low opinion of poor people. I think they are lazy, but not necessarily violent and evil. It takes about as much effort to conquer land as it does to get a job, if not more.

As for the ones who truly are by nature violent and evil, you are essentially advocating that we hold productive citizens hostage to their violent and evil nature. I find this mildly depressing.

 

[CunningSmeagol]

Originally Posted by 83glt

I'm sure I don't need to explain that the reference to your watch wasn't necessarily literal.

As for why people should get food stamps if they don't pay taxes, again, the best answer to that question would be for you to go experience poverty yourself. If you seriously are genuinely perplexed by this, which I don't think you are, then no answer of mine or anyone else's is going to clear it up for you. Seriously, go see for yourself how many of these people live. I think you'll find your answer.

That said, and to be fair, I have seen people using their Food Stamps "Benefits" card in line at the supermarket and maybe it was the exact same type of prejudice and ignorance affecting the OP that overtook me at the time. I thought: "Why the **** does she need food stamps?" I was a little pissed off to think that I was basically buying that woman's groceries. Obviously that's a very simplistic way of looking at it, but I admit that's how I felt in the moment. And there's a real problem with immigrants I might add, legal immigrants of course, who come to the US because of family sponsorship or whatever, not speaking the language, and for whatever reason not being able or willing to work. Often the standard of living they can achieve with food stamps and other benefits is much higher than they had back home. So they don't even have to do anything to have a better life here. And we're all paying for it.

But, and it's a big but, that is the minority and a very small one. And unless the government eliminates these benefit programs all together, there will always be some level of fraud or abuse of the system. The reality is, however, that the vast majority of people on these programs are in desperate need and have legitimate claims.

So if the OP's mystification was focused on the fraudsters, I would understand and agree. But it's quite clear that his ignorance has led to a sweeping generalization of benefits recipients that is unfair and unjustified.

And I say that the vast majority of those in abject poverty are perfectly able to sustain themselves. The gym that I use, a YMCA, is FULL of people who constantly brag about the benefits they have and share tips on how best to get more. And here they are wasting hours upon hours at the gym because all they do while they are there is talk loudly and occasionally lift weights.

Not to be able to acquire some useful skills and parlay them into gainful employment, today in the United States, one would have to be mentally marsupialed. What we do with mentally marsupialed people is another question, but most people on food stamps are not mentally marsupialed, AFAIK.