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HOF: Labels, heels and nail patterns - Secrets to ID the maker

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, Nov 10, 2006.

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  1. CTBrummie

    CTBrummie Well-Known Member

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    Cheers for that, however these shoes are of some age and, even now, most standard C&J models still have printed markings inside - with the obvious exceptions of most (if not all) handgrade models, and some boots (my Skye and Snowdon, for example)...
     
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    I think those are Cheaney. Does the footbed say "Made in Leather Sole England?"
     
  3. CTBrummie

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    Nope, they have Alan McAfee-branded sock liners partially covering what looks like the size above what is presumably the width in numerical form, in this case 11½ over 3.

    The soles don't 'look' Cheaney, either. They have a stamp that I've only seen on other C&J-made McAfee models, but with different inner markings and a less common sock liner:

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    The only shoes I've seen with a similar picture stamped on the sole are Grensons.

    However, C&J do use the size/width stamp on the footbed, but I don't know how long they've been doing that. And, C&J doesn't do half sizes on the stamp on the footbed.

    That sizing writing is nothing like any C&J I've seen, and I've see a lot.
     
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  5. CTBrummie

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    Interesting, and thanks! I'll pop into the C&J shop in town at the weekend and see if they can shed any light on this.

    The only other pics I have to hand of anything with that stamp are these:

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  6. barrelntrigger

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    If you don't feel like downloading the pic. It appears to be a navy blue label centered on the top line is a Z in a circle followed by the entire Ermenegildo Zegna name on the line below centered. Is this the higher end? lower end? mid? any clue?




    I don't know if you got your answer but I'm pretty sure that's their main line. Does it say "Made in Italy" or "Switzerland"? I said mid quality. Z Zegna will say "Z Zegna" on it.
     
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    What does their top line look like?
     
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    Their top line is Zegna Couture.
     
  9. simmo

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    Hi, I'm just wondering if anyone could help my figure out whether this jacket is genuine or not. I bought it relatively cheaply a while ago and for what I payed I'm guessing it's not. These are all the labels I could find on it, thanks for your time.


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  10. gyasih

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    Can anyone identify this label, picked up a SC at Daffy's? SC was made in Canada.

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  11. Mox C

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    I now remember what was distictive. It's not the triangles, but the combination of the triangles and dots or dashes. The Cheaney's I'm familiar with have dots. The Grensons I now have in front of me have lines. (Though some others have the triangles made up of lines rather than solid, which is where my head went.) They also have scripts almost identical to yours, though black text on a tan insole.

    STYLE 608-5336 11/D
    4157 — 12-84

    I'll be posting pics in the thrift thread tomorrow. I can put them in here as well, if you think they might be useful. The heel is all black rubber with the red "GRENSON" in the middle, but the sole is similar to yours, as far as I can make it out.
     
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  12. jamiebryant

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    Defintley a "JOHN W. NORDSTROM".
    I have a Cashmere Sport Coat and it has the exact same tags. As far as who makes it for them? I have no clue.
     
  13. AE7

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    Can anyone help on this RLPL label? Thank you!

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    Caruso if I recall.
     
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    I was wondering if anyone knew the maker of these shoes?
     
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    Looks like Alfred Sargent.
     
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    Does anyone have a clue as to the maker of these shoes? The only marking is this "B" They are from approximately the 1950's or 40's.

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  20. LabR4t

    LabR4t New Member

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    Hello all,

    Short time stalker, first time posting.
    I have an enigma. I have a pair of Johnston and Murphy Northamptons. Made in Northampton, England. Yep...not the US, Mexico, Italy, or where ever else they make them now.

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    http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/461/img1924r.jpg
    http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8692/img1931oj.jpg
    http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8186/img1932p.jpg
    http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4571/img1927ba.jpg

    Anyone know anything about these shoes. Roughly when J&M experimented with English shoe makers? Which shoe maker they may have contracted?
     
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