Bespoke: The Beginning of the End

[Tidybeard]

For the record, I have absolutely no vendetta or commercial interests that might relate to my comments in this thread. I appreciate David's contributions but also believe I am entitled to my opinion.

I do recognise, however, that for me this is an interest - for David it is how he makes his living. This is an unfair balance so if my comments had any relation to David's decision not to post then I apologise.

 

[Film Noir Buff]

Originally Posted by David Reeves

As a "brand" albeit one in it's infancy it seems with every statement I make I get put on the "stand". I don't want to carefully craft every post like a press release. As a Brand, a business owner and an employer it no longer seems possible or wise for me to comment on the forums. For people that PM me for advice or information I can be reached via the email on my site. We are also working on the website now (finally!), offering highly specialized alterations in association with Madame Paulette and actively pursuing wholesale RTW with a number of stores in London and NYC. If anyone would like to be put on our Email list please contact: [email protected] Best, Dave.
Well, he shouldn't take them too seriously. Clothing nerds are all hot air. They have a hard time separating their style fantasies from reality. I find their greatest value is finding out how insecure people react to clothes.

 

[peezie]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

No list of Italian tailors is complete without Mario Zuccala of Florence.


- B

lol

 

[unjung]

I don't know anything about anyone posting in this thread, but I fail to see how someone who takes an order and then faxes it to another country for production is any more an artist than the guy who takes my order for business card printing.

 

[RJman]

Originally Posted by David Reeves

As a "brand" albeit one in it's infancy it seems with every statement I make I get put on the "stand". I don't want to carefully craft every post like a press release. As a Brand, a business owner and an employer it no longer seems possible or wise for me to comment on the forums.

For people that PM me for advice or information I can be reached via the email on my site.

We are also working on the website now (finally!), offering highly specialized alterations in association with Madame Paulette and actively pursuing wholesale RTW with a number of stores in London and NYC. If anyone would like to be put on our Email list please contact: [email protected]

Best,

Dave.
I've said it privately and I'll say it here. I think the best way to resolve the Foo-Reeves clash is for David to make Foo a suit. Foo can then poast it on his blog and evaluate it. I had another inspired idea, which is a partnership with member mensimageconsultant for referrals for men seeking to improve their bespoke image.

Also David, you might get a better reception on Satan's forum (http://www.cutterandtailor.com/forum/index.php) where there are many bespoke artists seriously discussing their craft, oops I mean art.

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by RJman

I've said it privately and I'll say it here. I think the best way to resolve the Foo-Reeves clash is for David to make Foo a suit. Foo can then poast it on his blog and evaluate it.

I think that it should be Matt who should make David a suit, but otherwise, sagacious comments.


- B

 

[TheFoo]

Originally Posted by lasbar

The last thread was spoiled by the constant bickering of certain Sfers on the essential subject of sleeves.

Sleeves are an essential subject.

Originally Posted by RJman

I've said it privately and I'll say it here. I think the best way to resolve the Foo-Reeves clash is for David to make Foo a suit. Foo can then poast it on his blog and evaluate it. I had another inspired idea, which is a partnership with member mensimageconsultant for referrals for men seeking to improve their bespoke image.

Also David, you might get a better reception on Satan's forum (http://www.cutterandtailor.com/forum/index.php) where there are many bespoke artists seriously discussing their craft, oops I mean art.

We could try this, but I've never related well with Artists. Maybe it's because I'm a Republican.

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

I think that it should be Matt who should make David a suit, but otherwise, sagacious comments.

Sweet. I'll take anybody up on that so long as they have to pay me for the results, no matter what. I charge by the divot.

 

[UnFacconable]

Originally Posted by mafoofan

Sweet. I'll take anybody up on that so long as they have to pay me for the results, no matter what. I charge by the divot.

I thought all you lawyers charged by the word! I keed, I keed.

 

[RSS]

Originally Posted by aj_del

Doesnt Patek like to put their name on their product though of course they are a company who manufacture watches rather than da Vinci.
Of course, the "da Vinci" is also a model of watch by International Watch Company (IWC).

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by RSS

Of course, the "da Vince" is also a model of watch by International Watch Company (IWC).

I cordially extend my invitation to this thread.

Oh: Regrets Only.


- B

 

[RSS]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

I cordially extend my invitation to this thread.

Oh: Regrets Only.


- B

I'll take a look ... perhaps it's a thread for poor spellers ... but then I am an artist.

EDIT: Good God ... twenty one pages ...
I just don't have the time or desire to read that.
In this case ... I'm afraid it's Regrets.​

 

[lasbar]

As long as Mr Reeves is not calling himself a tailor , I'm ok with it.

My understanding is the following:He is taking measurements and dispatch them to others to make the suit.

He has created a brand and see himself as a designer or an artist.

Do I really care? No.

Why? Because it was obvious Mr Reeves was somebody looking for potential customers.


Even if I fully understand the confusion expressed by some of his customers and the need for clarification, I'm more shocked by some people hidden agendas than by Mr Reeves business canvassing.

Being a Beotian myself, I have always thought that Mariano Rubinacci was a tailor himself and I was buying his clothes at the time.

I'm just buying clothes I enjoy wearing and it will be better Style Forum if this philosophy was a bit more spread across instead of harbouring nevrotic threads.

 

[OxxfordSJLINY]

Originally Posted by David Reeves

As a "brand" albeit one in it's infancy it seems with every statement I make I get put on the "stand". I don't want to carefully craft every post like a press release. As a Brand, a business owner and an employer it no longer seems possible or wise for me to comment on the forums.

For people that PM me for advice or information I can be reached via the email on my site.

We are also working on the website now (finally!), offering highly specialized alterations in association with Madame Paulette and actively pursuing wholesale RTW with a number of stores in London and NYC. If anyone would like to be put on our Email list please contact: [email protected]

Best,

Dave.

If it helps any David, I think you do an awesome job with the suits and other clothing that you make (based on pictures from you and your clients) at a price I thought for sure would never again be possible!!!!!

 

[academe]

Originally Posted by lasbar

As long as Mr Reeves is not calling himself a tailor , I'm ok with it.

My understanding is the following:He is taking measurements and dispatch them to others to make the suit.

He has created a brand and see himself as a designer or an artist.

Do I really care? No.

Why? Because it was obvious Mr Reeves was somebody looking for potential customers.


Even if I fully understand the confusion expressed by some of his customers and the need for clarification, I'm more shocked by some people hidden agendas than by Mr Reeves business canvassing.

Being a Beotian myself, I have always thought that Mariano Rubinacci was a tailor himself and I was buying his clothes at the time.

Yes; I think even without hidden agendas, the tendency for some to belabour their points sometimes steps beyond the bounds of politeness and propriety.

Originally Posted by lasbar

I'm just buying clothes I enjoy wearing and it will be better Style Forum if this philosophy was a bit more spread across instead of harbouring nevrotic threads.

StyleForum has really lost much of it's appeal for me with the number of posters who simply take style much much too seriously. I enjoy wearing my clothes, and enjoy experimenting... While style "doctrine" has it's place, the need for some posters to impress their opinions on others here (welcome or not) really kills some of the playfulness and joy...

 

[weilian]

Originally Posted by RSS

...

Well, the trial/test coat is in ... and I like it. But ... I also have a dilemma ... I'm no longer at all certain that I need the "real thing." This may well suffice just as is ... and be my real thing. I'm not saying I'd never need or use high-end bespoke again ... but 90% of the time ... this really could work.

I imagine my confession will get me expelled from some bespoke circles. And some SF & AAAC members may never speak to me again ... but ... oh well, c'est la vie.

You know, it just came to mind how 3D body scanning for tailoring was trialed, what, 5 years ago by BB, however hasn't really taken off. Anyone have any updates or new developments to this technology and tailoring stuff?